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		| ssjup81 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:22 pm    Post subject: Letters of Recommendation |   |  
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				| Hello all. 
 When frequenting eikaiwa jobs, I've come across some that requires one to write a "cover letter" or a "letter of introduction".  I'm going to assume both are the same.
 
 This is new to me, but I am now coming across jobs that require letters of recommendation.  I don't have too much experience with that.  So, I was just wondering what would a Japanese employer be looking for in a letter of recommendation?  I can ask people to write them for me, but I know that they would need specifics.  Should I just go by JET's example?  Also, how many letters would be considered the norm?  From what I've seen, neither of these give an amount.
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		| iverin 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:22 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| when I applied to AEON I had two letters of recommendation. One from a high school teacher that I volunteered in the classroom for and one from a University professor. Both just commented on my reliability, helpfulness etc and then some specifics for each situtation (ie grades, assignments, classroom participation etc). |  |  
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		| Glenski 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Letters of Recommendation |   |  
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Really?  Pretty standard for most any kind of job anywhere in the world. 
	  | ssjup81 wrote: |  
	  | Hello all. 
 When frequenting eikaiwa jobs, I've come across some that requires one to write a "cover letter" or a "letter of introduction".  I'm going to assume both are the same.
 
 This is new to me
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Statements attesting to your teaching qualifications and experience, your personal character (especially if related to TEFL), and your overall work ethic. 
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	  | I am now coming across jobs that require letters of recommendation.  I don't have too much experience with that.  So, I was just wondering what would a Japanese employer be looking for in a letter of recommendation? |  
 
 
They shouldn't. You sound very new to the whole job hunting experience.  Job references should not be. 
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	  | I can ask people to write them for me, but I know that they would need specifics. |  
 As for how many, I'd say prepare 2-3.
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		| GambateBingBangBOOM 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:59 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Actually, Japanese employers usually don't give written letters of recommendation, and when they are asked to, they often get a foreigner to 'edit' what they've written (because it will be in English). |  |  
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		| ssjup81 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:19 am    Post subject: Re: Letters of Recommendation |   |  
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What a way to break up a paragraph and a sentence. =P 
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Really?  Pretty standard for most any kind of job anywhere in the world. 
	  | ssjup81 wrote: |  
	  | Hello all. 
 When frequenting eikaiwa jobs, I've come across some that requires one to write a "cover letter" or a "letter of introduction".  I'm going to assume both are the same.
 
 This is new to me
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As you can see, I didn't say that letters of introduction were new to me (that's the norm around here), I said letters of recommendation were, as just references are okay usually. 
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	  | This is new to me, but I am now coming across jobs that require letters of recommendation. |  
 
 
By specifics, I meant content material.  I could ask a person, "Hey, could you please write a letter of recommendation for me?"  I'm sure the person would ask what the employer is looking for or some type of a guideline.  It's like the JET application's reference form.  It tells the person writing the recommendation, what it's looking for.  That's why I asked. 
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They shouldn't. You sound very new to the whole job hunting experience.  Job references should not be. 
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	  | I can ask people to write them for me, but I know that they would need specifics. |  |  
 I did have to get letters of recommendation to work as a teaching assistant for my county (they skipped over this when I originally got the job since they were desperate).  Not sure what was written of course, but once again, they had a form to give to the person to write it, and they go by the guidelines.  I only got two out of the three, though since the last person who promised to write it, didn't...hence my problem getting another teaching assistant job since the rule was that three were needed.
 
 For the record, I'm nearing 30...I am not new to job hunting, just letters of recommendation since I haven't had any jobs that' required them; just a reference list.
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		| Glenski 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:41 am    Post subject: Re: Letters of Recommendation |   |  
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My answer is still the same.  Letters of recommendation are not new. 
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What a way to break up a paragraph and a sentence. =P 
	  | Glenski wrote: |  
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Really?  Pretty standard for most any kind of job anywhere in the world. 
	  | ssjup81 wrote: |  
	  | Hello all. 
 When frequenting eikaiwa jobs, I've come across some that requires one to write a "cover letter" or a "letter of introduction".  I'm going to assume both are the same.
 
 This is new to me
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As you can see, I didn't say that letters of introduction were new to me (that's the norm around here), I said letters of recommendation were, as just references are okay usually. 
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	  | This is new to me, but I am now coming across jobs that require letters of recommendation. |  |  
 
 
They shouldn't. You sound very new to the whole job hunting experience.  Job references should not be. 
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	  | I can ask people to write them for me, but I know that they would need specifics. |  
Some places provide such a form, but many do not.  Again, it's not uncommon to have an employer just ask for a "letter of reference" or such without asking for some specific information/content, and what should be in such a letter I've already stated, just for your own sake. 
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	  | By specifics, I meant content material.  I could ask a person, "Hey, could you please write a letter of recommendation for me?"  I'm sure the person would ask what the employer is looking for or some type of a guideline.  It's like the JET application's reference form.  It tells the person writing the recommendation, what it's looking for.  That's why I asked. |  
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		| LITTLE PEACHES 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:41 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| from my experience with my company: 
 Letters of Rec: I got like 5..but i'm an over acheiver and they only needed two. I had people write on my ability to work with all ages of people, with an emphasis on working with children. They also wrote about my accountability and ability to teach. Review what the school is looking for and have people write on your skills that can help with the job. I work with all ages of students which is why i had them do that.
 
 Letter of Introduction: MUCH different for me. This was a letter telling the students and people i would be working with about myself. Telling them from a teacher student stand point about me. I included more hobby type information
 
 Cover Letter: A typical cover letter...This was to my boss and included information about how i could do a quality job for them and represent them well as a company.
 
 I hope this was helpful for you.
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		| ssjup81 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:03 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| So all this time, I've been writing my "cover letters" like my "letters of introduction". 
 That aside, thanks to all of you for helping me with the basics of letters of recommendations.
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		| womblingfree 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:03 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| When I applied for university I was asked to provide letters of recommendation from the last two schools I'd worked at. Both my eikaiwa manager and head of the high school English department asked me to write the letter and they'd sign it. It was actually quite difficult coming up with unique positive attributes for each one. Needless to say I was accepted onto the course, would've been embarrassing if I hadn't!   
 Actually if you work at one of the large eikaiwa's it's far better to get your Manager or Head Teacher to write you a letter of recommendation (if you get on with them) rather than waiting around for the corporate garbage that the head-offices send you. Those Head Office letters can damn with faint praise if they think you've not achieved your targets, plus they're written by someone that doesn't know you.
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