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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject: You can't bank on it |
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"Kuwait moves to prop up major bank after losses"
KUWAIT CITY � Kuwait's Central Bank stepped in Sunday to prop up one of the country's biggest banks and said it was considering guaranteeing deposits in domestic banks � in one of the first concrete signs that the global financial crisis may next hit the oil-rich Gulf.
In Saudi Arabia, meanwhile, the government said it would deposit $2.7 billion into the Saudi Credit Bank to help lower-income citizens deal with financial difficulties, the country's Al-Ektisadiya newspaper reported.
The two moves came just a day after finance ministers from the six-nation Gulf Cooperation Council held an emergency meeting to echo assurances, which they have repeatedly voiced over the past few weeks, that the region's banks face no liquidity crisis.
Kuwait's decision to stop trading in shares of Gulf Bank sent a shock wave through the country's bourse, which closed down almost 3.5 percent and brought its year-to-date losses to over 19 percent.
"The halting of Gulf Bank shares spread panic in the bourse today, because the government has been saying banks are safe from (global financial crisis) losses," said investor Ahmed al-Fadhli in a telephone interview.
The central bank order said trading in Gulf Bank shares would be suspended pending an investigation into the derivatives deals that caused the losses. The bourse's statement said some investors had balked at covering their losses, but neither the central bank nor Gulf Bank indicated the scope or timeframe of the bank's losses.
But one banking official with access to the information estimated the bank's losses at up to $749 million. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.
Over the past few weeks, Kuwaiti investors have voiced clear concerns about the market. One stockbroker unsuccessfully sued to temporarily close the bourse while other traders last week stormed out of the exchange, demanding the government intervene to halt their near-daily losses.
Investor al-Fadhli said about 40 brokers walked Sunday from the exchange to the nearby seaside Seif Palace, demanding to see the prime minister, Sheik Nasser Al Mohammed Al Sabah, to ask for more government intervention.
The Gulf Bank news further fueled market turbulence in the broader GCC, not just in Kuwait, a tiny country which is far more dependent on oil revenue than many of its other Gulf counterparts.
Oman's stock exchange was down about 8.29 percent while Qatar's exchange was off almost 9 percent. Saudi's benchmark Tadawul index was down a moderate 3.06 percent, a day after plummeting over 8 percent.
Sunday is a normal business day in the Arab Mideast, which usually observes Friday as the weekend.
So far, the Gulf countries have been thought to be protected from the crisis, in part because of the cushion of oil money many of them have built up during years of high oil prices. However, because most of the region's banking sector is privately held, not much is known about the institutions' true risk exposure levels.
The Gulf Bank news also appeared to have pushed the Kuwaiti government to take a step it has so far resisted � guaranteeing deposits. The country currently makes no deposit guarantees.
The central bank said it would propose an urgent bill to guarantee bank deposits in an effort to "boost confidence in our banking sector and enhance its ability to compete with banks in countries where deposits were guaranteed by the state" but gave few details on specifics.
The guarantee would cover local Kuwaiti banks.
The various Gulf countries have taken a range of measures to maintain market confidence, including cutting interest rates and pumping billions into their economies.
In tandem, officials have repeatedly said the region is not exposed to the kind of toxic debt that has led to massive losses in the United States and spread to other global markets.
But the move to deposit funds in the Saudi Credit Bank, to be used interest-free by lower-income Saudis, showed the push many of the GCC countries were undertaking to ensure that their citizens are not affected by the current international crisis.
Much of that effort is funded by the countries' massive cash surpluses, accrued from oil wealth. But with crude prices falling, analysts say some spending may be curtailed.
The draft bill to guarantee deposits could prove to be the necessary catalyst for stability, analysts said.
But some, including independent financial analyst Ali al-Nimesh, have cricizied demands to stop trading, arguing that such a step was counterproductive and unnecessary since the daily losses have not exceeded 4 percent, compared to a more than 8 percent drop in the benchmark Saudi Tadawul index on Saturday, for example.
"Unfortunately, Kuwaitis have been used to demanding help and getting it ... and parliament has played a negative role in this," al-Nimesh said.
Lawmakers have passed pay hikes and set up a state fund to buy bad consumer debts despite strong Cabinet opposition.
The government believes oil revenues should be used for development instead of "popular" demands that do not take into consideration that oil prices might fall sharply, dragging down state revenues in tow.
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Associated Press business writer Tarek el-Tablawy contributed to this report from Cairo, Egypt.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081026/ap_on_bi_ge/ml_meltdown_gulf |
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15yearsinQ8
Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 462 Location: kuwait
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:56 am Post subject: |
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it's hard to react to these cut and paste posts.....not knowing what the point is exactly.....
- kuwaiti banks have been steady growth performers over the past 50 years with hardly a hiccup - steady divadends (i cannot spell, OK?) and expansion of capital - a ceo and stockholders' dream - add to that the kuwait social security funds comprise up to 25% of stocks of blue chippers on the kuwaiti index = steady influx of funds, local/regional growth....happiness all around - foreigners can buy stock i believe
- my sources say it was a not a rogue trader but an over zealous branch of the bank that had the law of averages finally catch up to them - a direvatives branch whose job it is to 'play with the money' banking on 12-18% return targets, and they GOT BURNED - led to panic and a withdraw of some accounts
- gulf bank has deep pockets, adequate COH and lines of credit that would buggle the mind of the typical tefl teacher , so go ahead let a few hundred withdraw their money, the govt will not have to guarentee accounts at any point in the foreseeable future
- btw, i hope everyone withdraws from the danah account so i can win the million kd on new year's eve - oh, ya
- also the dubai index is down 33% this year, the kuwait index down only 10% (so far)
so, what was your point john? |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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Dear 15yearsinQ8,
Sorry to have wasted your time. I was under the misapprehension that a major news story about how the economic crisis is affecting at least two countries in the Gulf might be of interest to some there.
And I regret the "cut and paste." Next time I'll try to paraphrase.
Regards,
John |
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HCEG1
Joined: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 36
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:09 pm Post subject: Banks |
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Out of interest, how are HSBC and Citibank doing in Q8? Last time I was there, 3 yrs ago, they were just opening. I was just wondering if they had opened their doors to retail banking for all, or were still focussing on Corporate, private and offshore stuff |
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