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alellis
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| Hello, in order to become a Mexican Citizen is it possible to keep your native citizenship? I have read articles that state both sides (getting rid of it and others keeping it and being a dual citizen), but I am unsure on the whole process. It would seem very extreme to have to renounce a citizenship. If that is the case, can one always stay as a permanent resident? |
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Samantha
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| The process to becoming a naturalized Mexican is lengthy these days. You would hold two passports. |
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Dragonlady
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ontoit
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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| You have to determine whether the country you are appying for citizenship to requires you to renounce citizenship you currently hold. |
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Samantha
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Since we are talking about naturalization in Mexico in this case, it's not an issue. In fact, the concept of "renunciation" of citizenship is a subject that seems unclear to some people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renunciation_of_citizenship |
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TheLongWayHome
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| I have heard that you 'renounce' your citizenship but they don't take your passport away - you just go through the motions allowing you to have both. Sounds like something that woud happen in Mexico. |
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MO39
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| TheLongWayHome wrote: |
| I have heard that you 'renounce' your citizenship but they don't take your passport away - you just go through the motions allowing you to have both. Sounds like something that woud happen in Mexico. |
That's what happened to a friend of mine last year. When he became a Mexican citizen, he supposedly gave up his American citizenship but no one asked for his US passport, so now he has two passports and two nationalities. |
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Guy Courchesne
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guatetaliana
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| MO39 wrote: |
That's what happened to a friend of mine last year. When he became a Mexican citizen, he supposedly gave up his American citizenship but no one asked for his US passport, so now he has two passports and two nationalities. |
I'm not sure he actually had to give up his American citizenship, but it likely isn't recognized in Mexico. I know plenty of kids who hold double Mexican-US citizenship due to having a parent of each nationality. These kids have both passports and easily enter each country on the corresponding passport. However, each country only recognizes its own citizenship (i.e. in the US, they're American and not Mexican, and vice versa).
Also, my dad is a naturalized US citizen, but his Guatemalan citizenship is still recognized in Guatemala.
I believe as long as you keep your original passport updated, you should have no problem proving either citizenship. The only obstacle is that I've heard a US citizen who also holds Mexican citizenship will have much greater trouble securing help from a US consulate or embassy in Mexico, as they are Mexican citizens in Mexico. I'm guessing it works the same way for other countries. |
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Samantha
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| The only obstacle is that I've heard a US citizen who also holds Mexican citizenship will have much greater trouble securing help from a US consulate or embassy in Mexico, as they are Mexican citizens in Mexico. |
Yes, exactly. When you naturalize you can't have it both ways. |
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El Gallo
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| Yesterday, I had two of my brightest young students translate the naturalization test and try to answer the questions. They both scored 20% even with a Mexico History book in front of them. |
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MO39
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| El Gallo wrote: |
| Yesterday, I had two of my brightest young students translate the naturalization test and try to answer the questions. They both scored 20% even with a Mexico History book in front of them. |
That's a depressing comment on the Mexican education system.  How old are these students? I wonder how I'd do on the US naturalization test  |
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Mrs L
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Well I'm not so good at the British one and I consider myself educated. I just about scrape passes when I try the practice tests, and it makes me very sympathetic towards Mr L trying to learn all those facts and figures just so he gets to live on this rainy island. Don't think a history book would help us much either  |
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El Gallo
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| MO39 wrote: |
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| Yesterday, I had two of my brightest young students translate the naturalization test and try to answer the questions. They both scored 20% even with a Mexico History book in front of them. |
That's a depressing comment on the Mexican education system. How old are these students? I wonder how I'd do on the US naturalization test |
These students are 14 and 17, real bright and both have recently studied Mexico History. The actually did better on the US Naturalization Test:
http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/blinstst_new.htm |
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TheLongWayHome
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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| El Gallo wrote: |
| Yesterday, I had two of my brightest young students translate the naturalization test and try to answer the questions. They both scored 20% even with a Mexico History book in front of them. |
Knowing the Mexican education system I think 20% with a history book is pretty good - just give them a geography test. Yesterday my students came up with: fulanito is from Norway, she's New Zealand...  |
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