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alellis



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:56 am    Post subject: Masters Programs Reply with quote

Are there any TESL/ESL Masters programs in Mexico? (other than Mexico City--more like Monterrey or Veracruz) thanks!
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MELEE



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Universidad de las Americas (UDLA) Cholula campus has one, but you'd probably be better off doing a distance one while in Mexico, rather than getting a Mexican degree.
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girlcabbie



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

University of Birmingham has a distance ed Masters in TEFL and Applied Linguistics.
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readytotravel



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm starting a MS Education with a concentration in TESOL program with Shenandoah University in January. www.su.edu
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raulyn



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MELEE wrote:
The Universidad de las Americas (UDLA) Cholula campus has one, but you'd probably be better off doing a distance one while in Mexico, rather than getting a Mexican degree.


This may be a stupid question, but... Why? Why is it better to get an on-line degree in the US than get one in person in Mexico?
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mexican degrees aren't thought of very highly in the US, Canada, or the UK I'm afraid.
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TheLongWayHome



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
Mexican degrees aren't thought of very highly in the US, Canada, or the UK I'm afraid.

If you get a uni job, you'll find out why. Some Mexican degrees aren't even highly though of IN the city where they were obtained.
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alellis



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If that were true, then why do so many foreigners study medicine at the University of Guadalajara? I have had doctors in the NICE part of town where I live who are Americans and got their medical degrees in Guadalajara.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps medicine or UAG is the exception. I've had Mexicans report that their degrees were not considered valid in both the US and Canada, including one friend with a PhD in economics, trying to secure work in Montreal. In that case, they told her that because Mexico is known for corruption, they couldn't possibly verify her degrees. She took that to mean they thought the degrees could have easily been falsified or simply bought.
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notamiss



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My better half sends his students to graduate studies in Europe and North America, and they don't have any trouble getting respected and accepted. (These are Math students from the UNAM.)

The respect commanded by a Mexican degree probably varies a lot by subject area and university.
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alellis



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, the USA actually has a list of Mexican medical schools that it considers valid.
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MO39



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come to think of it, in the late 1970s I taught English at the Colegio de Postgraduados, a graduate agronomy university near Texcoco. Quite a few of those earning Master's degrees then went on to get Ph.Ds at well-known schools in the US, England and Spain and had no trouble having their Mexican degrees accepted as completely above board by the universities who accepted them!
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MELEE



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

two points to ponder

---Why are all these people going abroad for their MAs and PhDs if foriegn degrees are not thought of as "better" some how?

---The OP was talking about an MA in TESL or related, it shouldn't be surprising that an English speaking country would be the desireable place to have that from, if for no other reason than the perception that the faculty would be native speakers. Of course I know this may not be true, but when you are applying for a job, what is and is not true is not always the most important.


I also know a lot of foriegners study at UNAM, but the majority that I've met (studying Math with my husband) are from other Latin American countries.
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MO39



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MELEE wrote:



I also know a lot of foriegners study at UNAM, but the majority that I've met (studying Math with my husband) are from other Latin American countries.


One reason for that could be that the courses are taught in Spanish so someone from a non-Spanish-speaking country would need to be bilingual in order to deal with the coursework.
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notamiss



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MELEE wrote:
two points to ponder
---Why are all these people going abroad for their MAs and PhDs if foriegn degrees are not thought of as "better" some how?


Speaking for the sciences, not TESL, it's because at that stage they get into specialized sub-areas and they go where there's a strong group of researchers working in their specialized area, wherever in the world that may be.
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