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[jfurgers]

Just kidding! It was a historical night for the States and some say for the world. I'll be glad when he fixes everything and makes the world perfect.
I know the Mexicans are very happy. Of course some are saying he's the anti christ.
A new era for the States...and Mexico!

[corporatehuman]

Is this your concession speech?

[thelmadatter]

To all my liberal friends... enjoy the party while it lasts!

[geaaronson]

Right Thelmadatter
Couldn`t agree with you the more. Actually in my case, I immediately became disillusioned within five minutes after his victory announcement. The challenge is so formidable considering how badly the Bushites have screwed everything up that its like going back to one`s home town after a hurricane, tornado and tidal wave have descended on it. And the press has only been reporting on the tip of the iceberg-those issues that have been of paramount interest to Americans.
How I wish we had a republican president like Gerald Ford, Ike Eisenhower or George Bush Sr. Instead we have a dunderhead of an idiot who has managed to screw everything up.
So, yes, the rest of us will come back to earth eventually as the mistakes of the past eight years get addressed.

[Guy Courchesne]

Does this mean y'all will stop wearing the Canadian camouflage while abroad?

[Prof.Gringo]

Congrats to our first African-American (real African, not wannabe) President and with a 90% liberal rating! I do hope we finally get national healthcare.

I think Obama will have a honeymoon period and then the kid gloves will come off.

The exp. factor doesn't matter as much as many think since the president has so many advisors as it is. They are the ones that sum up everything and sugar coat and spin it and then pass it on to the prez.

It's funny. Every eight years or so we see a "major" change of power in Washington. That consists of one party giving the other party it's turn to drive for another 8 years or so and continue the farce. Democrat, Republican, they are all pretty much the same. Look at Bill Clinton. He did as many Repub things as he did Demo.

The government works so well because all the politicos are all so close to one another and they always have each others best interests in mind.

[James Hetfield]

Spot on, Gringo! They have EACH OTHER'S INTEREST in mind, NOT YOUR INTEREST, not my interest, not the Public Interest. I just listened to Howard Zinn explain that government NEVER has the interest of the Public in mind. Zinn asks us to always remember: The Rich and Powerful support the Rich and Powerful, regardless of Party, and they will only do what the Public FORCES them to do.

That is the only explanation why Democrats Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid rolled over and let GW commit whatever crimes he wanted, without any accountability whatsoever, even when they controlled the CONGRESSIONAL MAJORITY. Indeed GW had their blessing for every war crime and corporate giveaway. Always remember those "Democrats" are first and foremost MILLIONAIRE PROPERTY CLASS. Marx asks us to remember, there are only two Classes: PROPERTY CLASS VERSUS WORKER CLASS, permanently locked in antagonism and opposing interests.

[Guy Courchesne]

Here's a more pertinent question, given the geogrpahy we find ourselves in. What does an Obama presidency mean for Mexico?

Back in the day, the new Bush presidency looked very good for Mexico. Breaking tradition, Fox was the first foreign leader to meet with the new president and an immigration or temporary worker accord looked to be high on the agenda. Bush even started celebrating Cinco de Mayo on the South lawn! Of course, 9-11 changed everything.

So what will Obama mean to Mexico?

[James Hetfield]

What is Presidente Obrador up to these days? If Obama and Obrador got together they might even bring Socioeconomic Justice to Mexico. Might even pay cops a living wage to stop the cocaine gangs. Might even pay gangbusters to stop corruption. (Of course you know the Mexican Interior Secretary plane crash today was no accident)

!Si se puede! New Era. Just slap aside Calderon. Anytime progressives win it means the Worker Class will enjoy higher wages, higher quality of life, make more money and ultimately demand consumer goods that raise the national GDP.

Conservatives oppress the Worker Class, keep them dirt poor, and prevent them from participating as consumers. Conservatives stagnate GDP, because Workers are the majority. When you oppress the majority, you stifle your own economy. Only ones who benefit are the exploiters.

Now South America enjoys Social Democratic Revolution. Obama will be Socialism-Lite. Now we just need to remove Calderon and that Canadian Neocon Wacko, then the Americas can enjoy higher quality of life. !Salud!

[Guy Courchesne]

Quick test for you JH...and don't google it.

What does AMLO stand for?

Answer that and I think there's a possible discussion here. Got a feeling you chase ambulances worse than a class-action lawyer or a street dog hot for a parked car.

[thelmadatter]

Im not sure that Obama really will do much for Mexico. Immigration mysteriously disappeared off the radar screen during the campaign... (OK not so mysterious, both candidates support some kind of "open borders" idea sugar-coated as "immigration reform" and for very similar reasons)

I think Obama will have his hands full with other things to worry too much about Mexico, barring some kind of disaster down here. He really only has the short honeymoon period that most new prez's have and two years before the next congressional elections. If he cant live up to his "messiah" reputation by then, be prepared to welcome one or both houses dominated by Republicans.

I really dont envy Obambi right now. He will probably go the way of Fox... a great symbol of a break with the past, but not much else.

[MELEE]

I'm not the person to really comment on what it will mean for Mexico, I'm not even in Mexico at the moment.

[thelmadatter]

So if change doesnt happen during the next four years, it wont be Obama's fault but the American people's. Wow.. only 2 days after the election and the weaseling is in full swing.

Its gonna be a fun show to watch. Palin/Jindal (or the other way around) 2012! (hee hee that should rile up a few people!)

[James Hetfield]

Yo Guy, Lo Siento if you thought I meant you. I absolutely was referring to the Neocon Canadian Stephen Harper.

I am suffering from what Mike Malloy calls RAGE FATIGUE. 8 years of the Neocon Jesus Cultist Imperialist War Criminals have rendered me a Neurotic Reactionary Loudmouth. Penniless and Unemployed too. Been more or less penniless and underemployed for 8 years. All my jobs got outsourced to China and India. Michael Moore said it best years ago: DUDE WHERE'S MY COUNTRY?

I shout "I'm a Marxist" just to upset Americans, when in fact I agree 100% with George Orwell's criticism of Totalitarian Stalinism. Castro and Chavez should be subject to free and fair democratic elections. But I can't admit this when talking to Neocon Americans.

Someone needs to shout. My Fellow Americans have just stayed silent and let War Criminals Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld bomb, murder and imprison without trial thousands of innocent victims. It's really been Augusto Pinochet-Lite here for 8 years.

Most unforgivable are impotent Democrat leaders Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid whose jobs were to prevent such a coup d'etat, yet they did and said absolutely nothing effective for 8 years. "Evil flourishes when Good People say nothing."

McCain dares call himself a War Hero when all he did was carpet-bomb napalm onto thousands of innocent women and children in Vietnam villages. WAR HERO??? As Obama says, "ENOUGH!"

Now I'll try to control my motormouth. Stop ranting politics and start my big TEFL job hunt in Latin America. I must be careful not to upset you because I may need your expert advice in near future! In Latin America I may wind up teaching at a Catholic school, which will certainly test my Atheism, so I better start learning to bite my tongue more often! RAGE FATIGUE.... I'm exhausted.... !Salud!

I google-cheated: AMLO y Stephen Harper:
Andr�s Manuel L�pez Obrador: He was involved in process originated by a land owner who sued the Federal District's government on the grounds of improper expropriation of a patch of land called El Encino. This case detonated in L�pez Obrador's (AMLO) hands in 2005, when a vote by the Chamber of Deputies lifted his constitutional immunity against criminal charges. If officially charged, he would have lost all his civil rights, including the right to run for the presidency in 2006, unless he was either quickly acquitted of all charges or managed to serve his sentence before the electoral registration deadline. On April 27, 2005, President Vicente Fox announced changes in his cabinet, a re-evaluation of the legal case against AMLO and legal changes so civil rights are only suspended once a citizen is found guilty. Fox and L�pez Obrador met in the first week of May 2005, as part of the efforts to calm the political climate. The new Attorney General found a way to avoid prosecuting L�pez Obrador.

Stephen Joseph Harper PC MP (born April 30, 1959) is the twenty-second and current Prime Minister of Canada, and leader of the Conservative Party of Canada. Harper became Prime Minister after his party won a minority government in the January 2006 federal election. He is the first Prime Minister since 1993 from any Conservative party, following twelve years of government by the Liberal Party. With a small increase in the percentage of the popular vote, though accompanied by a decrease in the actual numerical tally, Harper's Conservative Party won the October 2008 federal election.

[MELEE]