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Eyrick3



Joined: 29 Mar 2008
Posts: 161
Location: Beijing, China

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:26 am    Post subject: Off the beaten path big city Reply with quote

Hello all,

I'm considering relocating to Japan to teach. A bit about myself:

Bachelors in English
TESOL certified
4 years teaching experience (all ages and levels)
2 years teacher training experience

I'm looking for a city that:

Is off the beaten path (i.e. not too many foreigners)
Relatively low cost of living compared to big cities in Japan
A good place to learn Japanese (I'm already fluent in Mandarin)

My questions:
What salary range can I expect with my qualifications?
What places in Japan would fit the above criteria?

I appreciate your help!
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azarashi sushi



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Posts: 562
Location: Shinjuku

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Eyrick3!

Just one thing... The smaller and more rural the city, the fewer the employment opportunities will be.

Although the JET programme may be a bit boring for you with your experience and qualifications, give it a go because you almost always get placed in very rural areas.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 12844
Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JET programme
3.6 million yen/year before taxes

Some of the larger eikaiwa chains have schools in small towns. You may have to request that, but they'll probably appreciate it, as many foreigners want the comfort and luxury of Tokyo, Kyoto, Osaka, etc.
Pay is about 3 million yen/year.

Look at this web site (Dave's) and just about any other for ads.
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Eyrick3



Joined: 29 Mar 2008
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Location: Beijing, China

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you both for your replies.

It appears that between 250k to 280k a month is standard for new teachers. Do you think I could get a bit higher with my experience?

Any jobs out there giving teachers 350k+?
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Apsara



Joined: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 2142
Location: Tokyo, Japan

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will probably have to settle for one of the lower-paying jobs to start with, and start looking for something with better pay once you get here. There are higher paying jobs, but hard to find from outside the country or as a recent arrival in Japan.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eyrick3 wrote:
Thank you both for your replies.

It appears that between 250k to 280k a month is standard for new teachers. Do you think I could get a bit higher with my experience?

Any jobs out there giving teachers 350k+?
Don't take this response personally.

You wrote:
Bachelors in English
TESOL certified


Most entry level employers (what you will have to shoot for) don't really give a darn what your degree is in. They have little to no knowledge of TEFL/TESOL certification, and most don't require any. In fact, some will be wary of hiring people with it because they are afraid certificate holders will come in and use new theories to change their teaching format.

4 years teaching experience (all ages and levels)
2 years teacher training experience

Experience in what? Where?
Teacher training experience is also largely unrewarded here.

Don't expect more than entry level wages. 350,000 is a dream for a year or two, and even then, competition here is high. The market is pretty flooded.
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Eyrick3



Joined: 29 Mar 2008
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Location: Beijing, China

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Don't take this response personally.


No worries. I appreciate your candid response.

Quote:
Experience in what? Where?


All of my experience is here in Asia, and is in teaching, as I mentioned.

I guess they don't reward experience in Japan as they do elsewhere. Teachers with a bit of experience over here tend to do quite well.

Quote:
competition here is high. The market is pretty flooded.


Very different here in China. Demand is huge.

What about DOS positions? I haven't seen any advertised. Are Japanese schools likely to hire from within their own school, or will they elsewhere for good foreign management?
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stillnosheep



Joined: 01 Mar 2004
Posts: 2068
Location: eslcafe

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are no DoS. There are Japanese school managers and Japanese and non-Japanese teachers. The big eikaiwa chains have non-Japanese area trainers etc but they are few and far between and hired from within.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eyrick3 wrote:
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Experience in what? Where?


All of my experience is here in Asia, and is in teaching, as I mentioned.
I meant what type of teaching. All you said was ages. What have you taught?
high school
university
conversation school
business English
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Eyrick3



Joined: 29 Mar 2008
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Location: Beijing, China

PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I meant what type of teaching.


I should have known that's what you were asking. =)

I've taught all ages, levels and many different fields (real estate, banking, tourism).

I've taught every age and level from 3 - 60+.

Primary school, middle and high/senior school.

Also taught university.

I've also taught business English in-company.

I've also done exam prep for British Council exams (PCE, FCE and CAE) and TOEFL.
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