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mintgreen



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:55 pm    Post subject: Attestation of documents for Irish citizen Reply with quote

Hi all,

I'm a secondary school teacher applying for jobs in international schools in the UAE and other gulf countries.
I've read posts about the attestation of documents (degree, etc), but the info generally applies to US and UK citizens. I read that the attestation must be carried out in the country where the documents were issued, in my case Ireland. The thing is, I'm currently living in Romania.
The website for the Department of Foreign Affairs in Ireland, states that Irish Diplomatic and Consular Offices abroad can "certify copies of original Irish documents or translations". (I'm aware that this is only one step of the process, I'd still need to send them to the Embassy of the UAE in London, as Ireland doesn't have a UAE embassy/consulate.)
If I got my documents attested here, would it be acceptable to the Ministry of Education in the UAE?
Does anyone have experience of this? Or advice?

Thanks.
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Zoot



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:33 am    Post subject: mintgreen Reply with quote

Your documents must be attested in your home country - the rule applies to all expatriate employees in the UAE
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mintgreen



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Zoot.

Once they're done, that's it for life... right?
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mintgreen wrote:


Once they're done, that's it for life... right?


Man, have you got a lot to learn about the decision-making process in the Gulf! Rolling Eyes

NCTBA
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mintgreen



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol, yeah, that's why I'm here in this forum. Smile
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MsParker



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently, it can be done by mail.

You an also enlist a trusted friend/family member to take the papers in for you. They just need to see the originals and the legalized and notarized copies.

As the laws seem to be in flux, you may also need to send official transcripts to the London branch ~ best bet is to call and make sure.

You don't need this paperwork when you arrive in the UAE, but within a month of you arrival, when you are processing your work visa.
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Zoot



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:49 pm    Post subject: mintgreen Reply with quote

Hahahaa! Nothing's for life anymore, is it? But if you're referring only to the attestation of these particular documents being for life, then, yes it is. Good luck.
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smedini



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:57 am    Post subject: Re: mintgreen Reply with quote

Zoot wrote:
Your documents must be attested in your home country - the rule applies to all expatriate employees in the UAE


I believe the OP is right, that she can have her Irish documents authenticated/attested by the Irish Embassy in Romania to satisfy UAE requirements (but have to send them back to the UAE Embassy in England for legalization). Thanks to a note from Ms. Parker in another thread, I've been doing a little digging on this front as I am a Canadian living in Canada but will soon have a degree issued from an Australian university. According to the UAE Embassy here in Canada, it doesn't matter where you live or where you are from. The authentication of your degree has to come from the Department of Foreign Affairs of the country from which your degree is issued. I've learned that the authentication for my Australian degree can be done in Canada at the Australian High Commission in Ottawa and be accepted by the UAE Embassy in Australia.

~smedini
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Zoot



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject: smedini Reply with quote

Yes, you are correct smedini. I had wrongly assumed people from western countries study at universities in their own countries. This is no longer the case, of course, and Australia seems to have become a very popular choice. Why?
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smedini



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:47 am    Post subject: Re: smedini Reply with quote

Zoot wrote:
Yes, you are correct smedini. I had wrongly assumed people from western countries study at universities in their own countries. This is no longer the case, of course, and Australia seems to have become a very popular choice. Why?


Hi Zoot Smile

Thanks! Well in answer to your question, I can only say that Australia appears to be and have been ahead of the pack in offering a variety of programs online. The education is quality, not fluffy, and with the exchange rate the cost of a masters is very reasonable, indeed. As for me, I will graduate in February and hopefully head to the Emirates shortly thereafter (once I get all of this authentication and legalization wrapped up! And a job offer Razz !). I wrote to the director of the college I'd prefer in advance of my official application, giving him the low down on my experience and education. He said the degree I was getting from the uni I was getting from is a "well-respected qualification".

Anyone else want a kick at the 'why's Australia a good place for online study' can? Wink

IMHO
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Smiley07



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:39 pm    Post subject: Which one? Reply with quote

Can someon tell me...Is it the transcript that I need to get authenticed or the actual degree? I thought that the degree (the physical partchment) was not neccessary some people are telling me this is what is needed?Thanks
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Manny2



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually it is the actual parchment...or should I say a copy of the parchment...don't want stamps all over your original parchment.
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Smiley07



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok I was told it has to be the original copy but how is this possible? Dont really want to give away my parchtment...Does any one have expereience of this? Will a copy suffice
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Manny2



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No you do not want to have stamps on the original nor send the original. For a UK degree I had a copy attested as a true copy by the British Council and that was then sent to the Commonwalth office in UK. Can the Irish Embassy stamp the copy as a true copy and then send that to the UAE Embassy.
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squareandfair



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have an original and stamped transcript from your university, you take that to a notary along with a photocopy. The notary will stamp your photocopy as a TRUE copy of the original document. Then you can take this document (and any others like your diplomas, references, certificates, etc.) to your respective embassy or DHL it to the nearest one but I don't advise you to let original documents go out of your hand.
Once you have a stamp from your embassy or consulate, then you take the stamped photocopies to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs for a stamp.

I had to get three stamped:

1. a notary stamp to certify that my photocopies were true copies of the original document (I had to show him the original documents which had my university stamp and seal on them. I did this for my diplomas, transcripts and other required documents.)

2. an embassy stamp. I had to take certified/authenticated photocopies to my embassy for stamping on the back.

3. a Ministry of Foreign Affairs stamp on the authenticated photocopies of the original documents. (Be prepared to wait in a long line. It took me more than 2 hours.)

This was all some time ago so perhaps there may be some additional steps but check with your institution. They should be able to give you the most recent requirements.

The whole shebang cost about $200.00 at the time but I am sure it will cost more now. It depends on how many documents you have. I had 5.

There is an Irish Embassy in Riyadh according to my Irish friends.

Good luck. It's worth it. The UAE is a good place to live, lots of Irish here. Wait till you see Irish Village in Dubai.
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