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Manaus



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:18 pm    Post subject: I'm starting my MA in the spring... Reply with quote

I don't post on here that often, but I wanted to share that I'm starting my MA in TESOL in the spring and am really looking forward to what the future holds for me.
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Curhat



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in the very beginning stage of an MS TESOL program. All I can say is if you're not working, you're better off with an intensive 1 year program. If you are working, an extended one is ok. Mine is on the extended side, and they got me doing lots of nonsense classroom observations, when all I want them to do is teach me how to teach (I mean that IS what I paid them for). One entire semester, and I've only done a 5 min presentation...geez....that money would have been better spent on theater classes. Anyway, after reading the posts on this website, I'm looking at switching to a K-12 certificate program. Those programs will actually give you student teaching experience. And since I wanna go to Indonesia, apparently international schools are the best gigs.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where would you like to work with that MA?
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readytotravel



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am also starting an MS in Tesol this January. Shenandoah University allows up to six years to complete the program and it can be done completely through distance education.
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hollysuel



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a great time all! I did mine between �96-98 and it was a lot of work, but also a lot of fun. I have no regrets!
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Symphany



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski, would your university accept an MA TESOL? If not, does anyone (Glenski included) know of many schools that do?
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The university where I work won't hire anyone with less. Experience is also required.
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hollysuel



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Symphany wrote:
Glenski, would your university accept an MA TESOL? If not, does anyone (Glenski included) know of many schools that do?



Are there schools that don't?
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Symphany



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the response Spiral. Its good to know where applicants stand with universities. I understand that a master's is the minimum preferred, but I was wondering if many universities don't ask for/expect a PhD. What it seems like is the MA Tesol/MEd is the standard for teaching ESL at the university level, I've looked at alot of the programs and they almost all seem to want experience first, at least in Ontario and a few online-only courses I've looked at. Its a bit of a catch 22, can't get the job you want without experience and can't get the experience to get you the MA you need without experience.
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Symphany



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I was asking Glenski and maybe Holysuel, if you've worked at a university, is that are most universities satisfied with an MA or even less (ie a BA +TEFL) or do they require a Phd?
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denise



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Symphany wrote:
What I was asking Glenski and maybe Holysuel, if you've worked at a university, is that are most universities satisfied with an MA or even less (ie a BA +TEFL) or do they require a Phd?


MAs are generally enough (in some cases, more than enough) for EFL work. In my own experience, the classes that I have taught have been pre-university prep classes (i.e., students study a year or so of English before going on to take their university courses in English), not credit-bearing uni courses, which are more likely to require MAs--although I taught a few such classes with just an MA, through a combination of being in the right place at the right time and there simply not being enough teachers with PhDs.

And I strongly disagree with the poster who said that classroom observations were useless. They are certainly not enough, and you get valuable experience from your own practicum teaching, but you can learn a lot by watching other people teach--if you take the time to reflect on it and consider what you might have done in their place.

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