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dashzero
Joined: 05 Jan 2009 Posts: 4
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:28 am Post subject: Female Teachers in DF |
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Hey people. I wanted your opinion on foreign female teachers living in DF. Do you guys think its safe for foreign women to live here in DF? I would appreciate the opinion of everybody especially women. And if you guys have any advice on staying safe in DF it will be much welcomed. I dont mean to be sexist at all by the way. Thank you for your time |
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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I've lived off and on in Mexico City (right now it's "on") over the years. Things are a bit less safe than they were during my first stay in the summer of 1966, but I still feel safer here than I do back in my hometown of Philadelphia in the States, whether I'm with friends or alone.
Why did you ask this question? Have you heard horror stories from female friends who've lived here? We're all ears!  |
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lozwich
Joined: 25 May 2003 Posts: 1536
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Apart from unwanted remarks, and those lovely up and down looks, from men, I don't think there is any difference in safety levels for women or men in DF. Or am I wrong?
When a lot of crime is poverty driven, I don't think the sex of the target makes much difference. |
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notamiss

Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 908 Location: El 5o pino del la CDMX
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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I haven't seen or heard of any evidence to suggest that foreigners are at higher risk than locals in the DF, whether they are men or women. Anyone know anything to the contrary? |
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dashzero
Joined: 05 Jan 2009 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:31 am Post subject: |
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I am sorry I think I wasnt very clear on my question. See I am not really a teacher but rather a mexican who is looking for a job in DF in Mexico for a friend of mine. I was worried that because she is more light skinned than the usual mexican, blond, and actually quite attractive she might be in danger of something more serious than having her purse stolen. I presume (please correct me if I a wrong) that he qualities might get her something more serious than being mugged. Also doesnt not having a car put you at a higher of getting mugged (I mean you are more time on the streets). I am not from DF so I can only assume. |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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There are sections of the city where the odds are higher of being mugged, though it wouldn't realy matter what colour your skin is. If your friend is looking for a teaching job, the odds are pretty good that she would never find herself in these outlying areas of the city. That said, it is a big city and anything can happen anywhere. If she exercises some street smarts, such as not carrying around wads of cash and basically being aware of her surroundings, she should be fine.
On having a car, I would think she would be more likely to have problems. Car theft is a problem here. |
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TheLongWayHome

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 1016 Location: San Luis Piojosi
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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I think crime is crime pretty much anywhere in Mexico, it's just relative to the size of the city. The one thing you can't avoid (if you're a women) is the caveman culture. |
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Mrs L
Joined: 20 Mar 2008 Posts: 72 Location: Rainy England
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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I think I get what you're asking. The only horror story I've heard was from a British friend of mine who was held at gunpoint by an unlicensed taxi driver in DF. His intentions seemed to be to do more than just rob her but she jumped out of the moving taxi before he had chance to reach the more outlying parts of the city, with only minor injuries and a bit of a fright. Obviously the moral of that story is only take licensed taxis.
However, as a young blond myself who's never actually lived in DF but has visited on several occasions, I actually felt I got less unwanted attention there than in other parts of Mexico. The fact that it's a large city with plenty of foreigners made me feel less visible than in the small towns where I stand out like a sore thumb. If you're Mexican, dashzero, the horror stories you hear about DF are probably over exaggerated. Has your blond friend had any problems elsewhere in Mexico because of her looks? |
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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Street smarts are essential to avoiding lots of hassles in Mexico City, especially for attractive young blondes! Something I learned during my first stay here was to avoid eye contact with male strangers when walking around the city. This is something that two blonde gringa friends of mine never learned, and they always wondered why they were being approached so much by young Mexican men on the prowl - usually these were not the kind of guys they might have wanted to meet. One of these friends was from California where apparently smiling at everyone you see on the street was accepted behavior. She just couldn't break herself of this habit, which brought her quite a bit of unwanted attention, though nothing dangerous, mind you. |
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jfurgers

Joined: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 442 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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I had a lady from Australia tell me she would sometimes get grabbed on her $%# while on the subway and the metrobus, but no one ever really hurt her.
She also told me that guys would think she was "easy" because she was white and had blonde hair which meant she was considered a North American.
She told me guys would say things to her while she would be walking down the street sometimes. According to her, Mexican men think North American women are "easy"because of Madonna and Brittany, plus the movies. |
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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She told me guys would say things to her while she would be walking down the street sometimes. According to her, Mexican men think North American women are "easy"because of Madonna and Brittany, plus the movies. |
Guys used to say things to me as I was walking down the street and I am (well, was ) a brunette. Mexican men have thought North American women were "easy" long before the advent of Madonna and Brittany, believe me! |
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jfurgers

Joined: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 442 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:39 am Post subject: |
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MO39 wrote: |
Mexican men have thought North American women were "easy" long before the advent of Madonna and Brittany, believe me! |
Good point. But Modonna and Brittany sure don't help things. Plus some of the movies and shows that are on TV here.Shows from the States I mean. |
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:45 am Post subject: |
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jfurgers wrote: |
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Mexican men have thought North American women were "easy" long before the advent of Madonna and Brittany, believe me! |
Good point. But Modonna and Brittany sure don't help things. Plus some of the movies and shows that are on TV here.Shows from the States I mean. |
I think that Mexican men's attitudes towards gringas (and other foreign women) also have something to do with the fact that these women are not Mexican and are therefore seen as fair targets for their macho charms. Since these women fall outside of the norms of Mexican society, somehow when they are mistreated, this doesn't reflect as badly on their male suitors as it would if they had mistreated a Mexican woman of their own class. Just a theory of mine that I dreamed up after yet another dating disaster with a Mexican guy!
I do welcome comments on these cross-cultural musings of mine. |
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Samantha

Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2038 Location: Mexican Riviera
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:39 am Post subject: |
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Something I learned during my first stay here was to avoid eye contact with male strangers when walking around the city. |
This is indeed a valuable piece of advise. Making eye contact apparently sends subliminal messages of desire! Seriously, this was one of my first cultural lessons too and I highly recommend it to those who truly don't wish to be hassled. Anyway, our sidewalks are uneven and full of holes, so looking where I am walking is a bonus. |
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Samantha wrote: |
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Something I learned during my first stay here was to avoid eye contact with male strangers when walking around the city. |
This is indeed a valuable piece of advise. Making eye contact apparently sends subliminal messages of desire! Seriously, this was one of my first cultural lessons too and I highly recommend it to those who truly don't wish to be hassled. Anyway, our sidewalks are uneven and full of holes, so looking where I am walking is a bonus. |
"Subliminal messages of desire" - great phrase, Samantha! Now that I'm quite a bit older than I was during my first times spent in Mexico, I don't need to walk around with horse blinders on as I did in my younger days. I still get an occasional "look" from men on the street, but no weird sounds or unwelcome verbal "compliments", much to my relief! |
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