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Sonja23
Joined: 19 Feb 2006 Posts: 15
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:23 pm Post subject: Travelling to Japan on a one-way ticket and no visa... |
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Hello.. well, this post is admittedly not 100% related to teaching, but I hope you guys might be able to help me out.
I'm planning on doing my PhD in Japan, but will not find out if I get accepted by the university until early July. In any case, I would have to attend the interview in late June, and hence would already be in Japan. Even if I don't get accepted, I would like to move to Japan, and instead plan try to find a teaching job (I'm not sure how easy it is, but I have experience and hope it's possible to find a job once there!).
I plan on travelling to Japan on a one-way ticket from Singapore. This might be a little problematic to explain... I'm living in Norway at the moment, and am going to Singapore on a one-way ticket (I'm not sure if this would pose problems either, but that's for another board). So, since I plan on settling down in Japan (for a while at least), I would just like to buy a one-way ticket there. My thinking is also that getting a return ticket might prove problematic with Singapore immigration...
So my question is basically the above: is it a problem to go to Japan with a one-way ticket?
Sorry if it's not totally relevant. I tried doing a search but the search function doesn't seem to be working...
Many thanks for your help!
(I have a Norwegian passport - probably important to know) |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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This comes up every so often. Theoretically a Japan Immigration requirement for a tourist permit is that you have proof of onward travel. This is unlikely to come up when you arrive in Japan unless you attract their attention in some other way, but depending where you fly out of, the airline staff may refuse to let your board.
In some countries (I have heard of this happening in the US and Australia and experienced it myself in NZ- they checked carefully but were happy when they saw I have a work visa) the check-in staff will check your passport and if you do not have a visa that allows you to enter Japan on a one-way ticket they will not even allow you to check in.
Some people have been able to talk them around by showing proof of enough funds for an onward ticket, but I recently read about someone who was forced to buy a separate return ticket so that he could get on the plane.
I don't know if ground staff in Singapore will also follow that rule to the letter, but is it something you want to risk? |
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seklarwia
Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Posts: 1546 Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:31 am Post subject: |
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I know that from the UK, because UK citizens can stay as tourists without a visa for up to 6 months (you get stamped for 3 months then can extend your stay for 3 months if you contact the Japanese authorities) you can travel on a one way ticket. But you need to prove you have sufficient funds for an onward journey plus enough to support yourself for up to 6 months.
I know that similar rules apply for many EU citizens, but not all. And since you are coming from Singapore, there could be more complications. Perhaps you should check with your local embassy. |
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Angelfish
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 131
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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seklarwia wrote: |
I know that from the UK, because UK citizens can stay as tourists without a visa for up to 6 months (you get stamped for 3 months then can extend your stay for 3 months if you contact the Japanese authorities) you can travel on a one way ticket. But you need to prove you have sufficient funds for an onward journey plus enough to support yourself for up to 6 months. |
This can vary between check-in staff though so I wouldn't count on it.
Last year I was returning to Japan and my boyfriend came to visit, he was planning to do the same thing, stay in Japan a while then move on to another country, but the check-in staff wouldn't let him.
The best way around it is, what we did, buy the cheapest ticket you can out of Japan (we bought a standard single to Seoul from Narita for about �300 which is expensive but we bought on the same day at the ANA desk in Heathrow, you can probably get cheaper) and then get it refunded. If it's a normal ticket (not a special offer discount ticket) you can get a refund very easily so long as you haven't used it, up to one year after you bought the ticket.
Singapore is probably the same.
Also, my OH had about �7,000 in his bank account and a statement with him to prove it, but they didn't even want to know. |
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flyer
Joined: 16 May 2003 Posts: 539 Location: Sapporo Japan
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:33 am Post subject: |
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yes to my mind, an onward ticket would be necessary
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but I could be wrong, I suggest to ask the J immigration well before you leave |
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JL

Joined: 26 Oct 2008 Posts: 241 Location: Las Vegas, NV USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:59 am Post subject: |
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Since I, myself, have not had to worry about visa issues for almost two decades, please forgive me if this next suggestion isn't viable. But, even though you can wait until you enter Japan to request a standard tourist visa, cannot you still go to the Japanese embassy in Oslo, and apply for an old fashioned "tourist visa" in advance of your trip? If you can, it might help your case when trying to depart from Singapore.
Get the tourist visa. Then, when in Singapore, go to the check-in counter of the airline you plan to use well before the day you plan to depart. See if you can ask around with the staff and get an idea what their policy is. You can still always buy an ongoing ticket if you're not encouraged by what you hear. |
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seklarwia
Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Posts: 1546 Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:13 am Post subject: |
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Since the embassy website says that one-way ticket travel shouldn't be a problem if you meet the necessary criteria, the issues some of you have had seem more to do with airline policy than customs policy. If that's the case, can't you just check with each of the airlines in advance to find out what they allow?
EDIT: Wait... I seemed to forget that you were Norwegian in which case you can only enter for 3 months without a visa. Also forgot the whole flying from Singapore, so you should check with the embassy and airlines. |
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JL

Joined: 26 Oct 2008 Posts: 241 Location: Las Vegas, NV USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:25 am Post subject: |
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Or, how about trying some old fashioned baksheesh???  |
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seklarwia
Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Posts: 1546 Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:02 am Post subject: |
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Don't know about that... The monetary gift tactic could work on the check in staff, but that's no help if Japanese customs decides to deport you on the other end  |
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JL

Joined: 26 Oct 2008 Posts: 241 Location: Las Vegas, NV USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Everyone has their "price."
This could be fun...  |
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seklarwia
Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Posts: 1546 Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:09 am Post subject: |
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And that price could be a hell of a lot more than simply buying a second single journey ticket In fact, if the checking with the embassy/airline advance is a no go, just go with the buying an onward ticket then getting the refund. Who knows, maybe he'll not find a job and have to use that ticket for real. *Touches wood* I'm no trying to jinx anyone afterall  |
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JL

Joined: 26 Oct 2008 Posts: 241 Location: Las Vegas, NV USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:46 am Post subject: |
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"Maybe he'll not find a job..."
Or "she." I'm guessing Sonja is a she. But in all seriousness, no, I would never counsel actually trying to bribe anyone at immigration. It would be good for a couple of laughs, and then bad for a couple of years. At least.  |
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johanne
Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 189
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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I think the problem isn't getting into Japan, but actually getting on the plane, as others have mentioned. I don't know about anywhere else, but in Canada my passport is always carefully looked at and they search for my visa allowing me to live in Japan before they let me in the plane. The same think happened to me in the UK, so your problem may very well start in Norway and if the airline officials let you on the plane to go to Singapore. If that works, the next problem will be in the check-in staff in Singapore let you on the plane. Once you are on the plan to Japan, there is very unlikely to be a problem. I've never had to show a return ticket upon entering in to Japan, even when I used to come here as a visitor.
Good luck. |
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Sonja23
Joined: 19 Feb 2006 Posts: 15
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, thanks for the advice, everyone. (for the curious, I am indeed a 'she')
I actually sort-of have dual-citizenship (Singapore-Norway - sort of because it's not technically legal), so worse come to worst I'm planning on making use of that. I know as well that in Canada and the States they always check to make sure you have a return ticket, but I'm not sure about Norway. Well we'll see...
The refundable one-way ticket out sounds like a good idea. I might try that out. I haven't bought the one-way ticket to Japan yet so I still have time to contemplate it. |
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