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theincredibleegg
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 Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:43 pm Post subject: Letter of recommendation for new Z-visa |
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| How important is a letter of recommendation/reference from your previous employer? |
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IT2006
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 12:03 am Post subject: |
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From a Chinese employer or a home-country employer?
I submitted university letters of reference. It did me a lot of good. The first time and the second time. I asked my Chinese employer for an LOR and she refused. So I'm unsure just how important-- or common--- they are.
It seems that both are easily faked. |
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jamesmollo
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:56 am Post subject: letter of reference |
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For a z-visa it's not necessary. In country, and i've been through this recently, you need the form from your previous school.
This has 2 places for stamps - one seal from the school and the other from the office that issues the foreign experts certificate, one will do though. There is a box for ('their opinion of you') which can simply say you are released from the contract (in the event that you resigned) in my case this was enough. But, having said that, i've also obtained a new r.p.f and f.e.c without the required documentation.
Just depends on the situation. |
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theincredibleegg
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:32 am Post subject: |
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Thanks both of you for your answers.
I did not resign, but i did end up on the wrong side of my employer.
They handed me a letter of recommendation without a stamp.
No forms or anything.
I've looked through numerous of posts and it seems that there is no definite rule. That's what bothers me too - I don't know!
My new employer is on vacation so i can't contact her either.
I think it's weird that one employer can decide on wether or not someone is "worthy" of working for the next (or working at all). |
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englishgibson
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in some locations they might require this letter...it's the regulation and i have pasted it and copied somewhere on some thread (sorry can't remember which one)..it's in english and chinese i believe..we've discussed this topic a year or so ago
again, if they want it it's the regulation..it sounds like a "release letter" i think you might be refering to, but correct me if i am wrong
cheers and beers |
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IT2006
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:05 am Post subject: |
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| To obtain a Z visa, letters are not required from past employers, but schools are still asking for some sort of recommendation from in-coming teachers. |
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theincredibleegg
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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| englishgibson wrote: |
in some locations they might require this letter...it's the regulation and i have pasted it and copied somewhere on some thread (sorry can't remember which one)..it's in english and chinese i believe..we've discussed this topic a year or so ago
again, if they want it it's the regulation..it sounds like a "release letter" i think you might be refering to, but correct me if i am wrong
cheers and beers |
I have the release letter already. It has a stamp and everything on it.
Anyway, i'm hoping i can get around this somehow. I'm moving to a small city in Guangdong with very few foreigners in it. I'm hoping they're will be more relaxed on work permits, FEC:s etc. |
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theincredibleegg
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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| IT2006 wrote: |
| To obtain a Z visa, letters are not required from past employers, but schools are still asking for some sort of recommendation from in-coming teachers. |
I think it is a requirement, atleast according to www.middlekingdomlife.com.
The contract with my new employer is already signed, so they're counting on me... |
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arioch36
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| Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 6:20 am Post subject: |
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a recommendation letter is not needed or wanted when you go to your consulate to get your z-visa.
Now, the SAFEA office may or may not require school to supply such a letter when the SCHOOL applies for your INVITATION Letter |
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Teatime of Soul
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| Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:51 pm Post subject: Re: Letter of recommendation for new Z-visa |
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| theincredibleegg wrote: |
| How important is a letter of recommendation/reference from your previous employer? |
I'm going to assume you are speaking of your former Chinese school employer, (if this is not the case, please ignore).
Regulations as of a year or so ago require a letter or release AND a Letter of Recommendation.
The latter is a form that is filled out and stamped. If you do not receive an acceptable rating from your former employer, no school is supposed to be allowed to hire you.
Our school has had two FTs depart and their new schools required the letter.
As in all thing in China, YMMV, but that's the rules. |
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IT2006
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| Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| theincredibleegg wrote: |
| IT2006 wrote: |
| To obtain a Z visa, letters are not required from past employers, but schools are still asking for some sort of recommendation from in-coming teachers. |
I think it is a requirement, atleast according to www.middlekingdomlife.com.
The contract with my new employer is already signed, so they're counting on me... |
If one applies to the Washington, D.C. consulate OR the N.Y.C. consulate, no paperwork other than the official letter of invitation with the big, red hemorrhagic stamp on it, and the yellow form from the Bureau of Foreign Experts. Whatever the school sends you for the Z visa is all you need to supply. That and (possibly) a form which you can download from the consulate which pretty much asks what you intend to do in China, etc.. do you have a disease, are you a criminal, are you related to Moe Howard, etc.....? I submitted that with my two documents just to be sure that everyone got his necessary piece of paper.
My CHINESE SCHOOL required letters of recommendation from past employers, etc. I turned in the same letters of rec that I received from my professors at my university that I submitted to my last Chinese employer and the one before that one.
Be aware, however, that different consulates in different countries may have different requirements. Wherever you are, read the fine print.
Your local travel document service can cut to the chase for you. They handle this stuff every day. |
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englishgibson
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the post above is quite correct. and, different provinces in china may have different standards (of their own). now, i think our OP is in china. and yes, the correct wording is THE LETTER OF RECOMMANDATION
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| englishgibson wrote: |
in some locations they might require this letter...it's the regulation and i have pasted it and copied somewhere on some thread (sorry can't remember which one)..it's in english and chinese i believe..we've discussed this topic a year or so ago
again, if they want it it's the regulation..it sounds like a "release letter" i think you might be refering to, but correct me if i am wrong
cheers and beers |
I have the release letter already. It has a stamp and everything on it.
Anyway, i'm hoping i can get around this somehow. I'm moving to a small city in Guangdong with very few foreigners in it. I'm hoping they're will be more relaxed on work permits, FEC:s etc. |
why would you have to "get around this somehow", when you have the letter and with "a stamp" too 
good luck to our OP in "a small city in guangdong"
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cheers and beers to our holidays  |
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theincredibleegg
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:27 am Post subject: |
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| englishgibson wrote: |
the post above is quite correct. and, different provinces in china may have different standards (of their own). now, i think our OP is in china. and yes, the correct wording is THE LETTER OF RECOMMANDATION
| theincredibleegg wrote: |
| englishgibson wrote: |
in some locations they might require this letter...it's the regulation and i have pasted it and copied somewhere on some thread (sorry can't remember which one)..it's in english and chinese i believe..we've discussed this topic a year or so ago
again, if they want it it's the regulation..it sounds like a "release letter" i think you might be refering to, but correct me if i am wrong
cheers and beers |
I have the release letter already. It has a stamp and everything on it.
Anyway, i'm hoping i can get around this somehow. I'm moving to a small city in Guangdong with very few foreigners in it. I'm hoping they're will be more relaxed on work permits, FEC:s etc. |
why would you have to "get around this somehow", when you have the letter and with "a stamp" too
good luck to our OP in "a small city in guangdong"
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cheers and beers to our holidays |
A letter of recommendation and a letter of release are two different documents, ya know. |
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