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Hatcher



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:02 am    Post subject: Additional work at HCT? Reply with quote

I know that HCT doesnt allow u to work outside the organization but what about additional work inside HCT. I have two grad degrees and would like to work in both fields. How is it looked at?
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helenl



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possible I guess - however, a full time teaching load is considered 20 hrs/week. Overtime is paid if you exceed that - however, OT is paid only at the end of the academic year and only if your teaching load for each semester was at least 20 hours.

So if you have 24 contact hours in semester 1 and only 16 in semester 2 you will not get overtime as the average is 20/week.
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tmac-100



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:11 am    Post subject: OT Reply with quote

I have noticed several colleagues pull extra duty by teaching extra classes (ILTES??). OTOH, I have not seen anyone pulling such extra duty as a Business/Maths/education faculty member.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, helenl, but what's the real possibility of that? I caught OT last term and caught it again for this. Not that I'm complaining, but I've NEVER seen them give less in the 2nd term to compensate for the 1st. It's either all scratch or it's none at all. My extra month is locked in. If I can survive it intact all will be coming up roses. Very Happy

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adorabilly



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Hatcher.

I know a few teachers who are doing their normal coursework who get OT by teaching IELTS or other courses. I also know a few who are teaching across several departments (diploma, hd, and even year 1) So it can happen.


Hey NCTB.

I know several folks who were at 24 last term, but who were offered 15 this coming semester. All of them said no, we want a minimum of 20 to get that OT.

So it does happen.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gawd, would I LOVE that possibility...not at my college...again, not complainin'! Very Happy

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Hatcher



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:41 pm    Post subject: Extra work at HCT Reply with quote

Thanks for ur responses.
I know HCT requires a lot of work to from the original postings but I like to work and further, I need the work. My main concern was if HCT looks unfavorably upon present instructors requesting additional assignments from within the org.
I think I get it so....
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:27 pm    Post subject: One more question Reply with quote

I forgot to ask - if u work at the Dubai women's campus and there is work at the men's campus, do u need the NOC or whatever that letter is?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno. Maybe if both shared a mutual director...an' they usually don't. The only two who do are Sharjah Men's and Women's,...but I could be wrong...as my wife frequently reminds me. Embarassed

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helenl



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've experienced it twice - but as you say, it doesn't happen with a great deal of regularity and often depends on which program you're in and which college.

However, it serves as an alarm to those who are asked to do OT first semester but aren't told of the possibility of fewer than 20 hours for the second and therefore no OT pay at the end.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You work for HCT and are placed in a particular college - no NOC required. I would think that certain directors (DWC SWC and SMC spring to mind) would not want to "share" their teachers with a college not under their management.

BTW Fujairah colleges share a director between them.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RAK also had a single director in charge of both the mens and womens colleges. But he has resigned effective the start of the new term in Feb.

I know of a few people who teach for the women's college who do extra work at the mens (I think in the continuing education program, or teaching IELTS).

so it is possible to do a full 20 hours at your college, and then do OT at the other branch. I'm not sure how likely it is.

I do know that you can volunteer at your own campus to pick up some OT. And you can do it each semester (usually there are options for it. Either direct hours, IELTS training, or continuing education programs).

What you may worry about is doing 24 (or more hours in one semester) only to have the chair/dean/etc give you 16 hours the following semester. It does happen. (and is sucks because one semester you are working your tail off, and the next you are relaxing, but you lose out on that OT you earned in the first semester.)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:18 am    Post subject: Extra Pay Reply with quote

Every August/September there is a shortage of teachers. Every year we are told there will be more students than anticipated/budgeted for. Every September there seems to be overtime available.

However, by January sometime new teachers are recruited, students go on work placement, support staff are given a teaching load, release hours vanish and often there is no overtime for second semester. We also had overzealous management promising no OT. Additionally, students leave and classes are consolidated. This is why last year a number of us had OT in semester 1 and a cut of hours in sem 2 to balance it out. I lost of 20,000 dhs of overtime because my average ended up at 20 hours.

Now with oil at $42 a barrel expect more of the same.

Cert may offer some OT or as an IELTS examiner you can make some extra cash but don't count on it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CERT's OT rate is deplorable!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

adorabilly wrote:
.......What you may worry about is doing 24 (or more hours in one semester) only to have the chair/dean/etc give you 16 hours the following semester. It does happen. (and is sucks because one semester you are working your tail off, and the next you are relaxing, but you lose out on that OT you earned in the first semester.)


While it may "suck", that is the effect of balancing hours between two semesters.... A faculty member who "relaxes" during one semester should not expect pay for it.... or am I missing something here?

I don't expect faculty would get paid for "relaxing" in Canada, the UK, or the USA. In fact, I know it does NOT happen at the University of Minnesota (USA) where I attended garduate school and was employed as a graduate TA. Why should faculty be entitled for pay for "relaxing" here with HCT?? You now see a "downside" of dealing with averages - wild variations in the data are "masked" in the average.....

I did 24 hours in 1st semester, and then heard that I would not be paid for the extra 4 hours per, but each period would be paid at 55/60th of the hourly pay. Why?? Because someone in ACS/Finance decided to be niggardly. I wonder what the UAE Federal Labour Department would say about this "interpretation" of the extra 4 "hours" per day being equal to actually 3.66 hours of pay....

These are just observations about the HCT situation and my own past experiences Wink
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