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elkarlo
Joined: 08 Dec 2008 Posts: 240 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:12 am Post subject: Futtsu, Chiba placement |
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Hey I just got my placement. I will be going to Futtsu, Chiba. Can anyone give me the lowdown of this place? I went on wki and google maps. Looks like outer-outer suburbs to me. It is also farther than the Gaijinpot Apartment guide goes. So any idea of normal pricing. Also looks like there is a train, so I may be able to get around with out a car. Any help would be great.
http://www.x-shooto.jp/gym/index.html#okayama are any of the shooto schools in Chiba close/with in a reasonable distance to Futtsu?
I and 2 other ALTS are being placed there. Looks like 2 JHS and 1 ELM. Not sure how we will be set up. |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:05 am Post subject: |
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That is a fairly rural area, and because it is a long way down the Boso peninsula is not the handiest place transport-wise.
There seems to be several stations within Futtsu city (city is often a misnomer here, it just means there is a certain population within the area), all on the JR Uchibo line. The nearest of the gyms on your list is in Chiba city, around an hour from Aohori station (one of the 5 or so stations in the city)- not sure whether that is further away than you wanted to be but it is in shooting distance, and on the same train line (Chiba is the terminus of that line). The second nearest gym was in Tsudanuma, about another 15 mins north of Chiba if you want to try that one out.
Geographically that is a nice area- the population is in a fairly thin strip near the coast as the interior of the peninsula is hilly and covered in forest. Near the bottom of the peninsula and on the Pacific side there are some decent beaches. From Hamakanaya, which also seems to be in Futtsu, you can catch a ferry across Tokyo Bay to Kanagawa for more beaches. On the Hamakanaya side is Nokogiriyama, a sacred mountain which has a giant Buddha statue carved into the side of it. |
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JL

Joined: 26 Oct 2008 Posts: 241 Location: Las Vegas, NV USA
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:05 am Post subject: |
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Elkarlo,
All things considered, I think you made out OK. A little bit out there in the boonies, but the boonies outside of Tokyo, at least. You can make a run into one of the world's greatest metropolises in about 90 minutes.
First things first, THE STEELERS WON!! (Okay. Sorry. That was just for me. But I'm in my fourth decade of pulling for the Steelers and Pirates --so I couldn't resist!) Alright then. Now for you, the closest Shooto gym is the Chiba branch of Paraestra, in front of Chiba Station. There's another shooto gym in Tsudanuma, just a little further up towards Tokyo. I don't know either of these gyms, but Yuki Nakai's Paraestra was an excellent gym when I lived in Japan (he himself, once fought Rickson Gracie). And he's got a rapidly expanding chain. I'd think his Chiba would be pretty good. Location is great -right in front of the station.
Now for the bad news (sort of): it looks like there's just that one country train line running through Futtsu. I looked at the city's HP, and I guess depending on whether only the milkrun is running or not, it takes between "60 and 90" minutes to get up to Chiba Station. I've got two different suggestions on how to deal with this. 1) After you get settled in to your job and have gotten your bearings after about a month, move out and get your own place a little up the line, towards Chiba Station. An hour commute for people living in Tokyo is quite ordinary. So if you lived half an hour up the line from Futtsu, your work commute wouldn't be bad (depending on how far the school is from the station, of course; you'll have to factor that in, too). And another half hour or so up to the gym wouldn't be so bad.
2) Get some little beater car. Out in the boonies where you'll be, you're probably going to want your own transportation, anyway. Also, you very well might end up wanting to ride a bike, once you're there. Are you licensed for one in the states? If not, it might behoove you to bust your butt before you go and get licensed for a 400cc, in whichever state you're in. Then get an international drivers license, and ride a bike in Japan with that. A 400cc, or even a 250 would be more than enough in Japan. And out there in the boonies, you'll really be able to zip around in no time at all.
If getting licensed to ride a bike isn't an option, at least get the Int'l DL, because you can then drive a car, or, ride a scooter(50cc) with that. I used to drive all over Tokyo and Kanagawa on just a 50cc bike. Sometimes it sucked, sometimes it was a real blast, but it's always was a good option to have.
Also, little difficult to do, but you can have your U.S. license converted to a Japanese license, over there. But for more than one reason which I won't go into here, I actually recommend just getting the int.'l license.
Looks like there's a ferry from Futtsu over to Kawasaki. Could be fun to take on a day off. And I'm sure there's lots to do, recreationally, down there on the Boso Penninsula (the penninsula you'll be on). Have fun!
Myself, I've suffered a major setback in that it looks like I won't be able to make it to Japan by April. It's looking like a three month delay for me now (long story).
But I actually had been thinking about joining Paraestra's main gym, when I do get there. I believe members at one branch, have reciprocal training rights at other branches of Paraestra. If so, we definitely have to hook up when I get there. If we roll though, just take it easy on this old man, okay?
Here's the website for the Chiba gym.
http://www.parachiba.com/ |
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JL

Joined: 26 Oct 2008 Posts: 241 Location: Las Vegas, NV USA
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:09 am Post subject: |
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Oh, looks like Apsara got her post in ahead of me with some of the same info. about the gyms and the ferry.
Well, at least I have the bit about the Steelers to myself!  |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:26 am Post subject: |
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Yep, being from NZ I don't know the Steelers from the Packers (and I've just exhausted my entire knowledge of names of American football teams), so you can have that one! |
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elkarlo
Joined: 08 Dec 2008 Posts: 240 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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Apsara, and JL, thanks for your replies. I before hand had looked on google maps, and as you said it does look rural. Which I don't fully mind. There is a train line. Which I think living on towards Chiba bit would be best.
I also google mapped the gyms, and it as you said was about 90 minutes away. So living a bit that way would help split the difference I suppose. As I'd really rather not dive. I'm American, and Japanese roads are backwards to me. So it'd make me agood whle to drive and not be confused, not to mention getting lost. So I will try and weasel my way out of having a car =) Hopefully I can get by on a bicycle. I did in Hirakata. My host family's house was 7 miles away, and I made it to school in 15 minutes. So I wonder if I can bike from Chiba J/K
I'm not super interested in the Tokyo area to be honest. I put zero interest down for the Kanto region on my application. I guess they though I really wanted to go there badly, and was trying to be tricky To me Tokyo is a bit too big and intimidating. SO I doubt I will be there all that often. As a young man I can easily, EASILY make myself broke in Tokyo. So I hope my dislike will keep me away, and not poor.
The good news is that I will be close by to see Dream, and Sengoku live.
OH and JL thanks for the heads up on Nakai's gym. That is sweet!!!!
Now I just need to find a regular weight gym and I'm set.
Looking at this I post I know I am an odd duck. As a young single man going to Japan, I haven't mentioned, nor do I super care about picking up girls.
Edit: looks like I can live in a place like thishttp://apartments.gaijinpot.com/index/detail/id/8813
Interac will pay for my transportation. I might as well place myself where I can take advantage of that. |
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elkarlo
Joined: 08 Dec 2008 Posts: 240 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Apsara wrote: |
Yep, being from NZ I don't know the Steelers from the Packers (and I've just exhausted my entire knowledge of names of American football teams), so you can have that one! |
That's ok as and American, I only know of 2 of your cities, Wellington and Auckland. And 2 famous things, Xena and Lord of the Rings.
BTW I don't like American Football for bans either |
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JL

Joined: 26 Oct 2008 Posts: 241 Location: Las Vegas, NV USA
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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"I am an odd duck. As a young single man going to Japan, I haven't mentioned, nor do I super care about picking up girls."
Yes, we know. You already told us you want to 'wrassle' with sweaty guys. To each his own, regarding that. BUT... "I don't like American Football for b(e)ans either" ...Now thems fightin' words, there! How can you not like your country's greatest sport?? Just kidding Again, to each his own. But you said it -not me: "I am an odd duck."  |
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mimimimi
Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 53
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:51 am Post subject: |
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Futtsu is just past the boonies . . . more like "in the sticks". The average townsfolk is most likely a farmer or a fisher or if they are new to the area, a steel worker. Yes, there is train service on the Uchibo line however it is limited so you just can't show up and expect a train any minute like "in the city". The next city over, Kimitsu, has slightly better train service as most of the "rapid" service to Chiba or Tokyo begins at Kimitsu station, but again, it's limited.
The good point of Futtsu is that it has somehow been selected as a shopping mecca in the southern Boso peninsula. Of course this is all relative. Futtsu actually has a shopping mall in an enclosed space with three whole floors (and a Starbucks!). Right next to the mall is a new Cainz home centre which I highly recommend for your house needs. And there are other discount stores within walking distance. The next closest place with any sizeable shopping options is Soga, about an hour north of Futtsu. Soga also has the closest movie theatre that shows movies in English.
The air in Futtsu is considerably cleaner than the greater Tokyo area and depending on where you are, you can often see an awesome silhouette of Mount Fuji across the bay.
Good luck! |
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elkarlo
Joined: 08 Dec 2008 Posts: 240 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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JL wrote: |
"I am an odd duck. As a young single man going to Japan, I haven't mentioned, nor do I super care about picking up girls."
Yes, we know. You already told us you want to 'wrassle' with sweaty guys. To each his own, regarding that. BUT... "I don't like American Football for b(e)ans either" ...Now thems fightin' words, there! How can you not like your country's greatest sport?? Just kidding Again, to each his own. But you said it -not me: "I am an odd duck."  |
I am a special snowflake.
I was never into football. But I do watch the Superbowl and eat chickenwings then as is my patriotic duty!
Hey what's worse, dudes in their underware wrasslin, or a whole bunch of dudes in spandex making puppypiles?  |
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elkarlo
Joined: 08 Dec 2008 Posts: 240 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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mimimimi wrote: |
Futtsu is just past the boonies . . . more like "in the sticks". The average townsfolk is most likely a farmer or a fisher or if they are new to the area, a steel worker. Yes, there is train service on the Uchibo line however it is limited so you just can't show up and expect a train any minute like "in the city". The next city over, Kimitsu, has slightly better train service as most of the "rapid" service to Chiba or Tokyo begins at Kimitsu station, but again, it's limited.
The good point of Futtsu is that it has somehow been selected as a shopping mecca in the southern Boso peninsula. Of course this is all relative. Futtsu actually has a shopping mall in an enclosed space with three whole floors (and a Starbucks!). Right next to the mall is a new Cainz home centre which I highly recommend for your house needs. And there are other discount stores within walking distance. The next closest place with any sizeable shopping options is Soga, about an hour north of Futtsu. Soga also has the closest movie theatre that shows movies in English.
The air in Futtsu is considerably cleaner than the greater Tokyo area and depending on where you are, you can often see an awesome silhouette of Mount Fuji across the bay.
Good luck! |
That's what the Satillite pic shows=) It is the sticks. No big deal.
I was thinking of living in Kimitsu or Sodegaura or a bit more towards Chiba. Since I will be going there quite abit to train. Might as well take advantage of the fact that my commuting costs to and from school are covered.
I don't mind living far out. My parents house growing up was across the street from a cow field. I also hope I am far enough from Tokyo to be far away from piles of Gaijin(those who hang out only with gaijin) and lots of English Leeches.
Clear air, that can only be good. Is it on account of the air comes from the ocean rather than from the city? I'm from LA orignially, and the air came of the ocean and plowed the smog into East LA. Oh and checking the weather it is in the 5-8C Degree range. It is about -15C in MD this morning. What a welcomed change=)
And being able to see Mt. Fuji would be dandy.
Malls? Who cares=P The Cainz center, why do you reccomend that place?
I sit cheap or conveinent? As I have stated, I'd rather be farther down the line so I can go to a Shooto gym in Chiba. unless I can find another Kakkutogi gym close by, that will be my priority. Anyhow, is it a guesthouse. As long as I don't have to share a room I am gold.
Are there any (weight) gyms in the area? I am a goon afterall.
But seriously thanks for the help. Do you live in the area by any chance?
Edit: also being far away from piles of English speakers is good for my Japanese. I am on the cusp of being Intermediate. So I can talk and do a fair amount in Japanese, this will force me to go even deeper into the language. |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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Clear air, that can only be good. Is it on account of the air comes from the ocean rather than from the city? I'm from LA orignially, and the air came of the ocean and plowed the smog into East LA. |
The geography of the two areas is totally different. Futtsu is on a peninsula between Tokyo Bay and the Pacific, so it's not the kind of place pollution will sit. I hear smog sits in LA because it is kind of a valley and mountains trap it there. The prevailing winds in Tokyo actually blow the smog out to sea, and even when there aren't winds you'd be surprised by how relatively unpolluted Tokyo is for such a large city. The emissions regulations here are the strictest in the world- the US is quite lax by comparison.
The exception is probably midsummer when the humidity and lack of wind keep the smog sitting here for a few days at a time- nothing like China or India though. Also in summer a typhoon will usually come along at some point and blow it all away again
Winter is usually very clear and crisp- I can see perfectly blue skies out my window right now (I live not that far out of central Tokyo) and I can't see a hint of pollution. |
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elkarlo
Joined: 08 Dec 2008 Posts: 240 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 4:04 am Post subject: |
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Apsara wrote: |
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Clear air, that can only be good. Is it on account of the air comes from the ocean rather than from the city? I'm from LA orignially, and the air came of the ocean and plowed the smog into East LA. |
The geography of the two areas is totally different. Futtsu is on a peninsula between Tokyo Bay and the Pacific, so it's not the kind of place pollution will sit. I hear smog sits in LA because it is kind of a valley and mountains trap it there. The prevailing winds in Tokyo actually blow the smog out to sea, and even when there aren't winds you'd be surprised by how relatively unpolluted Tokyo is for such a large city. The emissions regulations here are the strictest in the world- the US is quite lax by comparison.
The exception is probably midsummer when the humidity and lack of wind keep the smog sitting here for a few days at a time- nothing like China or India though. Also in summer a typhoon will usually come along at some point and blow it all away again
Winter is usually very clear and crisp- I can see perfectly blue skies out my window right now (I live not that far out of central Tokyo) and I can't see a hint of pollution. |
Ok, my concern was that Futtsu was against some Mtns across from Tokyo. In LA the Mtns stop the pollution, so it kinda hovers. I was wondering if that were the case there as well.
Also Kyoto from what I saw was polluted. Not terrible, but not all that great either. Just saying. As for car emissions. I just read that the Euro Ford Fiesta gets 73MPG and 90MPG in the city. Problem is in the US it wouldn't pass EMP standards, HUH?
But in Japan the small cars help too, that and ocean breezes. Plus few people have cars, and most of them are fairly small compared to American ones. My civic is a 1.8 and that's kinda big in Japan.
Been following the weather there now. It seems like the lows, even at night are in the 30's F. I'm packing shorts=)
Does it snow all that often? It did a few times in Osaka, where I taught my host sisters how to make a REAL snowman! By real I mean 5ft tall, none of that 1ft tall nonsense.=) |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:34 am Post subject: |
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Futtsu is against some low hills- I wouldn't call them mountains, and since the peninsula isn't that wide and the winds can come from both directions- no, that area doesn't trap pollution. Kyoto on the other hand does, because of its inland location in a valley with mountains on 3 sides. Tokyo's geography is totally different. That said, in summer it can get a bit smoggy, but nothing like Beijing.
I don't know about things like miles per gallon, but I know that Tokyo is far less polluted now than it was in the 70s and the emissions standards are considered very strict.
It doesn't really go much below zero deg C (32 deg F?) at all in coastal Kanto, but the winds are literally Siberian (that's where they come from) and if they are blowing you won't be wearing your shorts. Remember the heating of residential buildings and from what I hear school buildings is not that good here- no toasty central heating set to a constant temp like they seem to have in the US.
It snowed in Tokyo several times last winter, enough so that we had 10-20 cm or so of snow on the ground for a few days (i.e. not enough for a 5 foot snowman), but this year I've seen just one snowfall which lasted about half an hour and the snow didn't hang around. Coastal areas like Futtsu are even less likely to see snow. |
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elkarlo
Joined: 08 Dec 2008 Posts: 240 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Apsara wrote: |
Futtsu is against some low hills- I wouldn't call them mountains, and since the peninsula isn't that wide and the winds can come from both directions- no, that area doesn't trap pollution. Kyoto on the other hand does, because of its inland location in a valley with mountains on 3 sides. Tokyo's geography is totally different. That said, in summer it can get a bit smoggy, but nothing like Beijing.
I don't know about things like miles per gallon, but I know that Tokyo is far less polluted now than it was in the 70s and the emissions standards are considered very strict.
It doesn't really go much below zero deg C (32 deg F?) at all in coastal Kanto, but the winds are literally Siberian (that's where they come from) and if they are blowing you won't be wearing your shorts. Remember the heating of residential buildings and from what I hear school buildings is not that good here- no toasty central heating set to a constant temp like they seem to have in the US.
It snowed in Tokyo several times last winter, enough so that we had 10-20 cm or so of snow on the ground for a few days (i.e. not enough for a 5 foot snowman), but this year I've seen just one snowfall which lasted about half an hour and the snow didn't hang around. Coastal areas like Futtsu are even less likely to see snow. |
Ok, I had no idea how high the hills were. All I saw was the Google maps pic.
When I was in Tokyo it was raining the entire time, so I had no idea what the pollutionwas like at all. Thanks for clearing that up.
http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/03/11/86-shorts/ Oh I won't be wearing shorts will I? =) In Osaka I was wearing shorts a full month earlier than the locals. It's what we do.
When I lived at home, and in Osaka, I could see my breath inside. In fact I wore my jacket inside in my host family's house to do homework. Kerosine is rough on my eyes. While my real Mom kept the house cold growing up. I thought I was frail, as I was only warm during my showers. Then I realized my friends houses were 8degreesC warmer!
Oh yeah the pollution control in Japan is pretty strict. But I think a good train system, and few cars helps that.
So not too much snow? Thanks for telling me the amounts. I'm sure being so close to the water makes it so that it doesn't snow so much. 20cm of snow and you don't think you can make a 5ft snowman, then I guess you didn't want it enough=P |
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