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Kibara
Joined: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 8
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:03 am Post subject: Got turned down by Amity, but Id like to be an ALT. Advise? |
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Hi everyone, I�m a long time reader, but first time poster.
I would just like to say that if I break any rules of conduct or etiquette, I would like to apologize in advance.
So hear is my deal. I�m about to graduate this May with my BA in journalism. I have no teaching experience, and a very basic command of the Japanese language (I took a class a couple years ago, but I study on my own when I have time). I have dreamed of a teaching job in Japan for almost 2 years now. The first time I went to Japan, I knew I wanted to work there.
I just had an interview with Amity, and sadly they didn�t offer me a position. This has gotten me really down because I was so excited about working for them. Also, I had myself convinced that was the only opportunity for me to teach in Japan. So I�m pretty depressed I didn�t get the job (even though they told me I could reapply in 6 months).
However, after reading though the forums here, the idea of being an ALT seems even more intriguing to me.
Is it too far out of the question for me to try for a job at being an ALT? Do you guys think I still have a shot at being an ALT even though I didn�t get in at Amity?
This brings me to my next question, what do you guys think are the best dispatch services for me here in America? Of course I know of Interac, but I have heard some horror stories about them. I realize though that no place is going to have 100% positive feedback, right? Please forgive me if I missed something very basic in my research.
I�m not going to be picky about where I get placed, I just want to make sure I have a place to sleep preferably with an internet connection, and Ill be happy. Maybe, close to a train that will take me to the bigger cities on my off time. I realize I won�t make much money, and I�m ok with that (I�m expecting to make less than I do now) and I have about $5,000 saved up. I just don�t want to get to Japan and get screwed out of a place to live. That�s my biggest concern.
Sorry about the long winded message, but what do you guys think? Do I still have a shot at getting a teaching job in Japan as an ALT? It has been a dream of mine for so long, I want to do absolutely everything I can to make it a reality.
I would truly, truly appreciate any input you guys could give a noob like me. Thanks for taking the time to read my drawn out post. |
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ripslyme

Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 481 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:29 am Post subject: Re: Got turned down by Amity, but Id like to be an ALT. Advi |
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Kibara wrote: |
Is it too far out of the question for me to try for a job at being an ALT? Do you guys think I still have a shot at being an ALT even though I didn�t get in at Amity? |
No it isn't too far out of the question. Comparing Amity to ALT work is almost an apples/oranges comparison. You still have a shot.
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This brings me to my next question, what do you guys think are the best dispatch services for me here in America? |
"best dispatch services"? Heck, even finding one that's even mediocre is the proverbial needle in the haystack. I know that Interac and Heart hire in the USA. Having to choose from either of those is like having to choose between having a broken leg or a broken arm.
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Sorry about the long winded message, but what do you guys think? Do I still have a shot at getting a teaching job in Japan as an ALT? |
You're putting the ALT gig up on a pedestal. True, the market conditions are terrible right now. You've still got just as good a shot as the next guy. |
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Kibara
Joined: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 8
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you very much for your advise, and words of encouragement ripslyme, that puts me a little more at ease.
I really appreciate that you guys are willing to take the time to answer my noobish questions. It means a lot.
I have also done some research on Aclipse, but I haven't heard much about them either. But they have an office near where I live, so that may be an option. Also, JET sounds great, but I have a friend that has been turned down by them for the past 3 years, so I figure I wont have a chance.
I realize that any place I work for will not be the best, but I am prepared to try and deal with any situation (I hope).
Any more advise?
Thanks again everyone, your input really means a lot to me. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:05 pm Post subject: Re: Got turned down by Amity, but Id like to be an ALT. Advi |
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Kibara wrote: |
I had myself convinced that was the only opportunity for me to teach in Japan. |
Totally wrong and unfounded.
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However, after reading though the forums here, the idea of being an ALT seems even more intriguing to me. |
Uh, have you even glanced at this thread? You should.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=69160
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Is it too far out of the question for me to try for a job at being an ALT? |
No, of course not.
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Do you guys think I still have a shot at being an ALT even though I didn�t get in at Amity? |
Sure, no reason why not.
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This brings me to my next question, what do you guys think are the best dispatch services for me here in America? |
Read that thread!
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I realize I won�t make much money, and I�m ok with that (I�m expecting to make less than I do now) |
How much do you expect to make? Making and saving are 2 different things, of course, and since you are just graduating, I figure you have some loans to pay off. Basic financial rule of thumb for newbies in Japan is this:
Expect something like 250,000 yen/month for a take-home salary. Half will go to basic necessities. What you do with the rest is your business. Send home the urgently needed money on payday, and you have no way to touch it for frivolities. |
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G Cthulhu
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 1373 Location: Way, way off course.
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Kibara wrote: |
Also, JET sounds great, but I have a friend that has been turned down by them for the past 3 years, so I figure I wont have a chance.
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You are not your friend. Their failure has nothing to do with your chances. Aside from being too late for the upcoming departure year, apply. You don't know what will happen until you do. |
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Kibara
Joined: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 8
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:27 am Post subject: |
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Thank you guys so much for your replies and valuable advice.
I think Im pretty lucky in that I wont have any loans to pay off when I graduate, and since I have money saved up, I think Ill be able to get by on about 250,000 yen/month relatively ok right?
But again, my biggest fear is getting to Japan and having no place to live, or no Visa or something. I'm just afraid of getting screwed on something big like that.
I say that about JET because my friend actually has a little bit of teaching experience, whereas I have practically nil. But you are right, I wont know unless I apply next year.
But I want to try for something sooner. I would like to start interviewing for Interac ect. as soon as possible, so I can start fairly soon after I graduate. I realize this is a long process, so I want to get it started as soon as I can. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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Kibara wrote: |
since I have money saved up, I think Ill be able to get by on about 250,000 yen/month relatively ok right? |
Please reread my post. Geez.
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But again, my biggest fear is getting to Japan and having no place to live, or no Visa or something. |
You land here and you have no housing. Get a hotel or guest house. You have a place to live.
You come with no job in hand, then you have no visa. So? Get hired and get a visa. Next question.
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I'm just afraid of getting screwed on something big like that.
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Kibara
Joined: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 8
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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Your right Glenski, sorry for rehashing the same question you already helped me with. I dont think I would have a problem living on what they decide pay me as long as its enough to live. I'm not doing this for the money.
I just want to make sure I have a place to live secured before I hop on a plane. I don't think I'm resourceful enough to find a place to live, or get a job on my own, especially with my rudimentary Japanese skills. I also wouldn't want to use the money I have saved living in a hotel for an extended amount of time.
I read on the Interac website that you have to furnish an apartment yourself. I'm sure I will have to spend plenty of money on that. But I even worry about that, how will I know where to go to buy what I need? Something like that would worry me.
But, it seems from other posts, that Interac would be my best shot if I want to go through a Dispatch Service. |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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I read on the Interac website that you have to furnish an apartment yourself. I'm sure I will have to spend plenty of money on that. But I even worry about that, how will I know where to go to buy what I need? Something like that would worry me.
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Kibara, this is not Mars- furniture stores, department stores, electronics stores and second hand furniture stores exist and look pretty much the same as they do back home. You also find out which places might be good for shopping the same way as you would if you moved to a new city back home- research on the internet, ask the people you work with, look around. Furnished apartments and guest house rooms are also widely available- just Google it.
If you really can't see yourself researching online to find a place to live (plenty of info in English) or doing other similar things once in Japan, you might not be ready to move by yourself to another country. It's a challenge, but it's not as difficult as you seem to think. |
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Kibara
Joined: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 8
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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:42 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, your right Apsara. I didn't mean it like that, when I visited Japan I went to tons of stores like that, but I was only in Tokyo, Kyoto, and Osaka. I never went to the suburban or remote areas. I know I wont get to work in any of those big cities though, so I'm not even expecting that.
I'm just thinking of worst case scenarios here. My head is full of little daemons that keep saying "what if this" and "what if that", always filling my mind with images of getting stranded or something. So I apologize to everyone if I have made a pest out of myself.
I really should just take the plunge and start applying to places other than Amity. Especially now that I think I would rather be an ALT.
I definitely want to apply with Interac and Aclipse, but I'm not sure who else I should try for here in the US. I want to try everywhere I can, so I have the best chances of landing a job. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Kibara wrote: |
I just want to make sure I have a place to live secured before I hop on a plane. I don't think I'm resourceful enough to find a place to live, |
Interac's FAQ says:
For overseas recruits, Interac will organise and cover the expenses for the accommodation (hotel or similar-shared room type) during the initial training and orientation period. All new recruits are provided with this information, including thorough directions from Narita Airport, prior to their arrival in Japan. Depending on your placement location, you might train directly with your individual branch and will not be required to attend training in Tokyo. This will be made known to you once you have accepted a placement and prior to your arrival.
and this:
Almost all Interac ALTs live in their own private apartments. Interac provides thorough assistance in the search process for an economical and convenient apartment, and provides the guarantorship which is required to secure a place to live. ALTs are personally responsible for the moving in costs, furnishings, rent and utility charges each month. The set up costs for an apartment ranges from 380,000JPY (Tokyo or other urban areas) to 200,000JPY (Suburban or rural areas) and monthly rent ranges from 50,000JPY (rural) to 90,000JPY (urban). While some apartments may be listed as �Internet ready� this does not always mean that there is immediate internet access. It may take up to a month after application for you to be able to log on.
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or get a job on my own, especially with my rudimentary Japanese skills. |
There are hundreds, perhaps thousands of people in your situation, roaming the streets of Japan looking for work. Stay in the bigger cities, and you maximize your odds of finding a job you like, plus there is more English here than you might imagine.
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I also wouldn't want to use the money I have saved living in a hotel for an extended amount of time. |
Guesthouses are cheaper, plus if you get hired by Interac, well, read the first paragraph from their FAQ above.
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I read on the Interac website that you have to furnish an apartment yourself. I'm sure I will have to spend plenty of money on that. But I even worry about that, how will I know where to go to buy what I need? |
Interac says they will help you. Other employers may sometimes be so helpful. Plenty of recycle and secondhand shops here for the big stuff (furniture and appliances), and the 100-yen shops are incredibly convenient and ubiquitous for everything else. |
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Kibara
Joined: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 8
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:17 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Glenski, FAQs are wonderful things. I had a look at theirs myself, I just wounder what they leave out. I think I made up my mind to apply with Interac, then the only question on my mind now is if I can/should apply now, or wait until May when I actually graduate? Even though all their recruiting dates in America say "To be advised" whatever that means. |
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