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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:49 am    Post subject: A Green question about the IB English subject Reply with quote

I searched through the net under google: " The IB A1 in English", but could find nothing.

Are there any teachers out there who are teaching at an International school and are teaching the English subject method?

I am curious to know what type of testamur or teaching tool you possess. There is a plethora of ESL certification availble for utilization in ESL related contexts these days. But I am curious to know what type of qualifications or teaching tools an IB teacher requires.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've taught at one and I can speak for Peru and honestly the majority of the IB schools here don't have books. You create your own material. If you do have books, they're usually not very good.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:45 pm    Post subject: Re: A Green question about the IB English subject Reply with quote

austeacher wrote:
I searched through the net under google: " The IB A1 in English", but could find nothing.

Are there any teachers out there who are teaching at an International school and are teaching the English subject method?

I am curious to know what type of testamur or teaching tool you possess. There is a plethora of ESL certification availble for utilization in ESL related contexts these days. But I am curious to know what type of qualifications or teaching tools an IB teacher requires.
You might want to explore the IBO website to see exactly what its curriculum entails. Go to www.ibo.org. For example, here's the curriculum framework for the Primary Years Program (yes, I know, they spell it "Programme"): http://www.ibo.org/pyp/curriculum/index.cfm.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:15 pm    Post subject: Re: A Green question about the IB English subject Reply with quote

Chancellor wrote:
austeacher wrote:
I searched through the net under google: " The IB A1 in English", but could find nothing.

Are there any teachers out there who are teaching at an International school and are teaching the English subject method?

I am curious to know what type of testamur or teaching tool you possess. There is a plethora of ESL certification availble for utilization in ESL related contexts these days. But I am curious to know what type of qualifications or teaching tools an IB teacher requires.
You might want to explore the IBO website to see exactly what its curriculum entails. Go to www.ibo.org. For example, here's the curriculum framework for the Primary Years Program (yes, I know, they spell it "Programme"): http://www.ibo.org/pyp/curriculum/index.cfm.


That's not really a curriculum, as in "what" to teach, but how to teach it, or through which "lens" to teach it. I teach at an MYP school in Texas now, and we use the curriculum that the school/district provides, and the methodology/ideology of IB.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I appreciate the replies, but I have not yet received a direct response to my question, which was what teaching qualifications are required to teach English A1.

Is a Graduate Diploma in TESOL acceptable or do teachers need a Graduate Diploma in Primary or Secondary teaching as a tool or "lens" as one poster stated, to teach any of the IB subject methods.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

austeacher wrote:
I appreciate the replies, but I have not yet received a direct response to my question, which was what teaching qualifications are required to teach English A1.

Is a Graduate Diploma in TESOL acceptable or do teachers need a Graduate Diploma in Primary or Secondary teaching as a tool or "lens" as one poster stated, to teach any of the IB subject methods.


yes, many schools will accept it. TESOL, you can teach ESL or EFL, but it's best to get a primary or secondary one.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:30 pm    Post subject: Re: A Green question about the IB English subject Reply with quote

bdbarnett1 wrote:
Chancellor wrote:
austeacher wrote:
I searched through the net under google: " The IB A1 in English", but could find nothing.

Are there any teachers out there who are teaching at an International school and are teaching the English subject method?

I am curious to know what type of testamur or teaching tool you possess. There is a plethora of ESL certification availble for utilization in ESL related contexts these days. But I am curious to know what type of qualifications or teaching tools an IB teacher requires.
You might want to explore the IBO website to see exactly what its curriculum entails. Go to www.ibo.org. For example, here's the curriculum framework for the Primary Years Program (yes, I know, they spell it "Programme"): http://www.ibo.org/pyp/curriculum/index.cfm.


That's not really a curriculum, as in "what" to teach, but how to teach it, or through which "lens" to teach it. I teach at an MYP school in Texas now, and we use the curriculum that the school/district provides, and the methodology/ideology of IB.
My not-so-clear point was that IBO isn't really a series of subject-matter curricula in the sense of an IBO method of teaching English (as a language or otherwise), math, science, etc. Since the original poster asked specifically about "the IB English subject," I thought it appropriate to suggest actually taking a look at the IB curriculum where the poster would see that there really isn't a specific "IB English subject" in the sense the original poster intended.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

austeacher wrote:
I appreciate the replies, but I have not yet received a direct response to my question, which was what teaching qualifications are required to teach English A1.

Is a Graduate Diploma in TESOL acceptable or do teachers need a Graduate Diploma in Primary or Secondary teaching as a tool or "lens" as one poster stated, to teach any of the IB subject methods.
Your question isn't really valid. The International Baccalaureate Organisation (IBO or, as you put it, IB) doesn't have subject-matter curricula in the sense you appear to be asking. A1 in IBO refers (from what is indicated in the website) to the Primary Years Program (or, if you prefer, programme), which is essentially the equivalent of the lower elementary school grades.

I think that the IBO schools will more likely require teacher certification (not merely TEFL certification but something akin to elementary or secondary education) in your home country (or even in the country where you hope to teach), regardless of whether that also includes a graduate level diploma (Is "graduate level diploma" the same as a degree?); but that depends on the individual school. Another way to think of it is this: the qualifications for public schools in your home country (or the country in which you want to teach) are likely the minimum you would need to teach at an IBO school. Look at the websites of some IBO schools and see what they require.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think respondents are over quoting, there is no need to build one quote box on top of the other it appears complicated; as complicated as over administration on Uni campuses.

Now, I may have said the "IB English subject method" because I know that it is a subject offered at PYP, Middle School and College level. It means simply that teachers should possess a Teaching qualification directed at teaching the subject content and not teaching the curriculum. You can not teach a curriculum, logically, but one can teach the subject method content, ie, a language, arts subject or SOSE that is integral to the curriculum.

I have called it a method as that is what it is known as when it is being undertaken as a subject of study and learning by teachers and trainers.

It is evident that I could teach the English subject, at what level I could teach it at is at the discretion of the IB school that is prepared to employ a TESOL trained teacher.

I possess a formal TESOL qualification delivered at University. Inclusive with that was a formal teaching round of one month. In Australia my qualification is recognised by government or non-government schools that have integrated ESL in the curriculum concurrent with general English and other mainstream subjects of learning.

I am at this point, merely waiting for a teacher to come across this posting who is teaching English at an IB school; with some luck they may reply to my request.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

austeacher wrote:
I think respondents are over quoting, there is no need to build one quote box on top of the other it appears complicated; as complicated as over administration on Uni campuses.

Now, I may have said the "IB English subject method" because I know that it is a subject offered at PYP, Middle School and College level. It means simply that teachers should possess a Teaching qualification directed at teaching the subject content and not teaching the curriculum. You can not teach a curriculum, logically, but one can teach the subject method content, ie, a language, arts subject or SOSE that is integral to the curriculum.

I have called it a method as that is what it is known as when it is being undertaken as a subject of study and learning by teachers and trainers.

It is evident that I could teach the English subject, at what level I could teach it at is at the discretion of the IB school that is prepared to employ a TESOL trained teacher.

I possess a formal TESOL qualification delivered at University. Inclusive with that was a formal teaching round of one month. In Australia my qualification is recognised by government or non-government schools that have integrated ESL in the curriculum concurrent with general English and other mainstream subjects of learning.

I am at this point, merely waiting for a teacher to come across this posting who is teaching English at an IB school; with some luck they may reply to my request.


I have secured a position teaching Grade 12 British Lit at a school in Guatemala that is in the process of getting IB status, and I had to have a teacher cert from the US. I realize that you may be asking about ESL Smile That's as much assistance as I can provide.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the best of my knowledge, once a school obtains IB certification the IBO no longer requires new teachers to participate in IB-specific professional development. So, being hired by the school is all you need to teach IB courses. What you need to be hired by the school would vary on a school-by-school, region-by-region basis. When I taught IB English (Literature, not ESL) it was in a public high school that required me to have provincial teaching certification in order to teach there in any capacity.
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