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Wilkor
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 Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:58 pm Post subject: Financial Crisis and ESL in Indonesia |
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Those of you who are living in indo at the moment,
How are things in Indo with relation to the international economic state of affairs? Have things started to turn ugly? People losing jobs? Companies going down?
And I guess how is it affecting ESL centres? are they still as popular as they were? Are student numbers dropping?
What's the story people? |
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tanyakenapa
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Location: Batavia
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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The student numbers have gone down every term for the last year (even longer I think) where I work, but we think thats mainly due to idiotic management.
Apparently they are going to raise the prices again in August!!!!!
However, this term and the next is usually very quiet because alot of students take it off to prepare for the end of school year exams. Usually the new term that starts in August is the busiest because its after the end of school year holidays...and everyone is refreshed.! |
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Vertumnus
Joined: 03 May 2006
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Location: Indonesia
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:45 am Post subject: Economy |
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In the teaching industry there has been an effect, but not as bad as those industries that revolve around exporting products to other countries. I know several furniture manufacturers who are all tightening their belts.
It doesn't really seem like Indonesia's been hit as badly as the West - but, then, you should ask the commoners. They are the ones who are suffering. Even though gas prices have been dropped, the cost of "sembako" (daily needs) hasn't.
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Gajah Oling
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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Location: Jawa
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| Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:19 am Post subject: Re: Economy |
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| Vertumnus wrote: |
In the teaching industry there has been an effect, but not as bad as those industries that revolve around exporting products to other countries. I know several furniture manufacturers who are all tightening their belts.
-D |
Exactly. But it seemed to me that all my students' parents were owners of factories that exported furniture, textiles, etc. to the west. I wonder if they're considering cutting back and not sending their kids back to school. Especially when rapscallion school owners repeatedly raise fees and lower term lengths. |
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Vertumnus
Joined: 03 May 2006
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Location: Indonesia
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| Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:57 am Post subject: Re: Economy |
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| Exactly. But it seemed to me that all my students' parents were owners of factories that exported furniture, textiles, etc. to the west. I wonder if they're considering cutting back and not sending their kids back to school. Especially when rapscallion school owners repeatedly raise fees and lower term lengths. |
Fear not, not all parents are involved in the affected industries! You'll still have some students, but I suspect people with smaller businesses might tighten their belts...
-D |
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malu
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| Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:12 am Post subject: |
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The market sector that is occupied by the kind of schools that employ FT's has been remarkably stable in the past. Even the financial meltdown of 1998 didn't finish off that many private schools, though teacher salaries in hard currency terms have never recovered.
My school admin are convinced that we will lose a handful of students next academic year because their families can no longer afford the fees, but we expect to pick up a similar number from international schools higher up the food chain for the same reasons.
The biggest impact will be on numbers of Indonesian students going to school or university overseas. More of those students will be educated locally next year. |
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aku_tonpa
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| Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:50 am Post subject: |
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but, then, you should ask the commoners
and the serfs too! |
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Vertumnus
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| Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:49 am Post subject: |
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| Vertumnus wrote: |
| but, then, you should ask the commoners |
| aku_tonpa wrote: |
| and the serfs too! |
Yes, many people on the lowest end of the scale are much like serfs - but that's what capitalism is all about, revival of serfdom (aka J.O.B.)! 
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raven_sable
Joined: 06 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| ESL is as strong as ever. Indonesia still has plenty of ESL jobs available. The ones who can afford ESL lessons are generally the people with enough money to be unconcerned about a recession. |
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rayman
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| Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:25 am Post subject: |
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| The ones who can afford ESL lessons are generally the people with enough money to be unconcerned about a recession. |
Yes, and thankfully corruption is recession proof... |
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