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Changing visa status... need new re-entry permit?

 
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kahilm



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:12 pm    Post subject: Changing visa status... need new re-entry permit? Reply with quote

So I'll be changing my visa status from specialist in humanities to instructor soon. Right now my specialist visa is until July, 2011 (3 year) and I have a multiple re-entry permit as well.

When I change the status to instructor, do I have to buy a new re-entry permit? I really hope not but I feel like they'd try to squeeze another 6000 yen out of me if it's at all humanly possible.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never saw this question before, but my educated guess would be that you will have to get a new reentry permit.

The REP is tied to the expiration date of your current visa, so if you change that, you should (IMO) have to change the REP, too.

But ask immigration and let us know what they say. Who knows?

P.S. Are you that bad off financially that you can't afford a mere 6000 yen for the next 3 years?
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G Cthulhu



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Changing visa status... need new re-entry permit? Reply with quote

My reasoning would go in the opposite direction; the reentry permit is not tied to the current visa per se: it is issued on the basis that they previously checked you *had* a valid visa and that you should be allowed to enter and leave. That doesn't really change - all that's happening is that the old valid visa SOR is being replaced by a new valid SOR.

I would just ask at the same time the SOR change is made - a casual, 'Oh, will the date on this reentry permit need to change? I want to make sure I'm doing ewverything right and your expertise and guidance would be gratefully accepted because I'm just a silly gaijin <bowbowapologizenod>"

Let us know which option they go for (adjust date or new permit).
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Khyron



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The re-entry permit IS tied to your current visa, or at least it was when I changed my visa status last in 2007. I was told, directly from immigration, that I had to get a new re-entry permit with my new visa. A few was paid, and a new re-entry permit was had by me.

You'd better prepare that extra 6,000 yen that they want to squeeze out of you.
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kahilm



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The re-entry permit IS tied to your current visa, or at least it was when I changed my visa status last in 2007. I was told, directly from immigration, that I had to get a new re-entry permit with my new visa. A few was paid, and a new re-entry permit was had by me.

You'd better prepare that extra 6,000 yen that they want to squeeze out of you.


Thanks for the heads-up although that's exactly what I didn't want to hear. Gotta love gaijin-only taxes. Shoganai, ne.
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kahilm



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I just got back from the lovely Shinagawa immigration office and the nice lady told me I don't need a new re-entry permit. It gets me a little worried, though, that she said I don't need one and Khyron said I do need one. Hmm...
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, did she say whether your reentry permit expires according to your old or new visa?
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kahilm



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

She said the re-entry permit will be a little short if I get a new 3-year "instructor" visa. So it will still expire according to the length of my old, "specialist in humanities" visa. If I just get a 1 year stamp, then... actually I'm not sure. I'll bring it up again when I go to renew at the end of that year, I suppose.
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G Cthulhu



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kahilm wrote:
Well, I just got back from the lovely Shinagawa immigration office and the nice lady told me I don't need a new re-entry permit. It gets me a little worried, though, that she said I don't need one and Khyron said I do need one. Hmm...


And the reason for that is.... because the vast majority of Japanese rules and laws start with the phrase, 'In principle.." Discretion is major factor.

Just enjoy the fact you got an officer that said you didn't need one. Why go create problems for yourself by asking again? If you go to leave Japan and Immigration at the airport says anything different then you can get a new permit at the time of departure.

As I said, if you want someone to quote chapter and verse for you then go over to BD and ask there. They will know. Don't ask here for that sort of detail.
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