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Dave_1
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 Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:47 pm Post subject: Business Visa |
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| Would schools in Mainland China, Beijing allow me to work on a business visa...or require me to transfer to a work visa with them? Am thinking of going there for a 6-12 month stay, hence the query. thanks for any help. Am really aiming to work part-time to cover Mandarin study... |
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suanlatudousi
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Doing what ? Teaching ?
Z visa is a WORK visa - that simple
And if you intend to STUDY - then you need a STUDENT visa
Get one or the other and do one or the other |
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sharpe88
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| Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 5:53 am Post subject: |
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| ^ Well, that a little facetious. In fact, most teachers here are on F and L visas. |
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suanlatudousi
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| Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:02 am Post subject: |
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Really ? I'm being facetious ? I'm joking inappropriately ? Okay
Really ? Factually, most teachers are here on F and L visas ?
I am entirely sure that that fact is not true - because ..... it's not |
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theincredibleegg
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| Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 7:30 am Post subject: |
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| Alot of schools (if not most) employ people on F/L-visas. They're of course not allowed to employ foreigners as it is illegal for a foreigner to work on an F-visa. |
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eddy-cool
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| Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 7:50 am Post subject: |
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IncredibleX,
you defeated your last answer by writing that working on an 'F' visa was illegal; in point of fact, working on a tourist visa is, while having an 'F' visa puts you in a gray zone of semi-legitimacy. Holders of an 'F' visa can serve as purveyors of 'educational or cultural contents' to Chinese hosts. It may not be covered by SAFEA but it is an option left by relevant rgeulations and laws that often leads to laowais being hired as fully-fledged FTs.
If they stay for up to six months few authorities take issue. |
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Itsme
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| Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:31 am Post subject: |
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| Well technically you are an independent contractor. This could be a business. so why all the fuss? |
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suanlatudousi
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| Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:23 am Post subject: |
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| Well, then the business must be registered and approved by the government |
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LanGuTou
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| Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:47 am Post subject: |
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If the OP intends coming to China to study Mandarin at a registered school, why not simply apply for a student visa? Most schools can arrange the documentation to get this and you would probably be very unlucky to be pulled up for taking a part time teaching job to supplement your income.
If you intend finding a job with very low teaching hours to allow yourself to self study in your spare time, then hunt the job vacancies for a legitimate school that can supply the paperwork to get a working visa.
Why do you need to come to China on a "L" or "F" visa? |
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theincredibleegg
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| Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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| eddy-cool wrote: |
IncredibleX,
you defeated your last answer by writing that working on an 'F' visa was illegal; in point of fact, working on a tourist visa is, while having an 'F' visa puts you in a gray zone of semi-legitimacy. Holders of an 'F' visa can serve as purveyors of 'educational or cultural contents' to Chinese hosts. It may not be covered by SAFEA but it is an option left by relevant rgeulations and laws that often leads to laowais being hired as fully-fledged FTs.
If they stay for up to six months few authorities take issue. |
A bit out of context are we?
He's going to receive a salary as a teacher. Stay on topic. |
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evaforsure
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| Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 3:10 am Post subject: |
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| Well technically you are an independent contractor. This could be a business. so why all the fuss? |
You can in fact be hired as a contractor and work for a school as a teacher....all under the F visa...
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| Holders of an 'F' visa can serve as purveyors of 'educational or cultural contents' to Chinese hosts. |
100% correct....
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| He's going to receive a salary as a teacher. Stay on topic. |
Which could be absolutely legal ..... depends on the classification of the job... |
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eddy-cool
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| Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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IncredibleX,
you defeated your last answer by writing that working on an 'F' visa was illegal; in point of fact, working on a tourist visa is, while having an 'F' visa puts you in a gray zone of semi-legitimacy. Holders of an 'F' visa can serve as purveyors of 'educational or cultural contents' to Chinese hosts. It may not be covered by SAFEA but it is an option left by relevant rgeulations and laws that often leads to laowais being hired as fully-fledged FTs.
If they stay for up to six months few authorities take issue. |
A bit out of context are we?
He's going to receive a salary as a teacher. Stay on topic. |
And, where, my babe, was I out of context, where???
The relevant guidelines do not rule that 'F'-visa holders serving in their capacity as 'cultural' emissaries must not receive any remuneration. |
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theincredibleegg
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| Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| eddy-cool wrote: |
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IncredibleX,
you defeated your last answer by writing that working on an 'F' visa was illegal; in point of fact, working on a tourist visa is, while having an 'F' visa puts you in a gray zone of semi-legitimacy. Holders of an 'F' visa can serve as purveyors of 'educational or cultural contents' to Chinese hosts. It may not be covered by SAFEA but it is an option left by relevant rgeulations and laws that often leads to laowais being hired as fully-fledged FTs.
If they stay for up to six months few authorities take issue. |
A bit out of context are we?
He's going to receive a salary as a teacher. Stay on topic. |
And, where, my babe, was I out of context, where???
The relevant guidelines do not rule that 'F'-visa holders serving in their capacity as 'cultural' emissaries must not receive any remuneration. |
well, if one would manage to convince psb of having such a position (and not receiving Chinese salary), then sure. 'If' that is. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| I thought with an F visa, you can work up to 6 months, teaching, or doing other legal work. AND you can extend it. |
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