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Teaching English, a gateway job?

 
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mightyfrea



Joined: 04 Jan 2012
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:40 pm    Post subject: Teaching English, a gateway job? Reply with quote

Hi all,
I am just wondering what the long term prospects are for English teachers in Spain. Is there a salary ceiling? Do people move on because they get burned out or do they find work in related fields? I have heard a few people mention moving up into university positions, is this in English?
I am planning on making the jump into teaching English this fall in San Sebastian, Bilbao, or Santander. Should prepare myself to only expect a basic livable wage (hopefully) for the next two or more years out?

By the way, Im making beans in the states, so I don't have high financial expectations, but I am curious as to the long term prospects. I am from the US and have two university degrees, and several years teaching experience, albeit, in a different subject. I just acquired an EU passport through lineage, so the European job market is a new beast to me.
Thanks for any info.
Cheers,
Laura
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pr455



Joined: 08 May 2011
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Location: MADRID, SPAIN

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laura,

These questions have been answered before throughout the Spain forum. Spend some time reading and you will find all of the information that you need.

Suerte,

Shawn
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mightyfrea



Joined: 04 Jan 2012
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am really sorry my posts have inconvenienced you Shawn. Maybe you are familiar with this forum and industry, so these questions seem repetitive to you. It is not to everyone though. I have been reading lots of posts about salaries and personal situations, but not all 10,000. Perhaps you would like to share your expertise or point me in the right direction.
Cheers,
Laura
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spiral78



Joined: 05 Apr 2004
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Location: On a Short Leash

PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't say much about Spain specifically, but I can speak to the general European job market at the beyond-newbie level.

Firstly, to get into a 'better' job than entry/start-up level takes some time and commitment to an area. In terms of English language teaching, the few 'better' jobs around usually take local connections, reputation and language skills to land. There is also a 'luck' factor. The second-third step jobs usually tend to be either working directly for a corporation or getting into an international school or university. Such openings are generally fairly rare and are usually/often filled by people with contacts.

The economy in Spain is something you might want to read up on as well -


Also, do keep in mind that most Spanish families have multiple incomes -that's how they get ahead (when they do). Recommended to marry a local, if possible, to maximise ones economic potential Very Happy Cool .

Overall, with some commitment and the right qualifications and etc, plus luck, it's possible to get into jobs that are sort of middle-class, but by no means does everyone achieve this, unfortunately.
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pr455



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mightyfrea wrote:
I am really sorry my posts have inconvenienced you Shawn. Maybe you are familiar with this forum and industry, so these questions seem repetitive to you. It is not to everyone though. I have been reading lots of posts about salaries and personal situations, but not all 10,000. Perhaps you would like to share your expertise or point me in the right direction.
Cheers,
Laura


Laura,

Please do not blow things out of proportion. Your first sentence has said it all and wasn't really necessary. That's all that I have to say. This is truly such a shame that your reply has come to this. Sad

Good luck in your search and I know that someone will respond with the answers that you are looking for.

Shawn
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AGoodStory



Joined: 26 Feb 2010
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mightyfrea wrote:
I am really sorry my posts have inconvenienced you Shawn. Maybe you are familiar with this forum and industry, so these questions seem repetitive to you. It is not to everyone though. I have been reading lots of posts about salaries and personal situations, but not all 10,000. Perhaps you would like to share your expertise or point me in the right direction.
Cheers,
Laura


Get a grip. Shawn is one of the most generous and helpful posters on this board. Nobody thinks you have to read all 10,000 posts. Since Spain seems to be where you want to go, just browse through the threads from the last year or two. Believe me, you'll receive much more in the way of answers, help, and advice, if you lose the attitude.
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mightyfrea



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't mean any offense to Shawn or whomever, I am simply trying to get some information.
Like I said, there is a lot to digest on here, and if someone asks a question that has been asked before or offers some information that has already been discussed, its likely because they didn't realize it. Certainly I am not the first. Of course I am reading though the other posts, but this is all new to me. Im sorry if I came across with an attitude, but I felt a little defensive. Perhaps I misunderstood your intent.

Spiral, thanks for your response.

I hope everyone has a great day and can relax now.

Best,
Laura
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AGoodStory



Joined: 26 Feb 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mightyfrea wrote:
I didn't mean any offense to Shawn or whomever, I am simply trying to get some information.
Like I said, there is a lot to digest on here, and if someone asks a question that has been asked before or offers some information that has already been discussed, its likely because they didn't realize it. Certainly I am not the first. Of course I am reading though the other posts, but this is all new to me. Im sorry if I came across with an attitude, but I felt a little defensive. Perhaps I misunderstood your intent.

Spiral, thanks for your response.

I hope everyone has a great day and can relax now.

Best,
Laura


Thank you, Laura. According to a friend and colleague, I have been impossibly irritable and cranky all day--sorry to have sent some of it your way. Embarassed
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Moore



Joined: 25 Aug 2004
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Location: Madrid

PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To have the best chance at getting a related job with a bit more stability, your chances would probably be a lot higher in Madrid or Barcelona. A good many of my mates who arrived here at the same time as me in Madrid 9 years ago and started off teaching are now working in more or less related fields such as I.T., multinationals, translation, universities, their own businesses or simply their own "round" of well paid private classes.

That said, I'm sure it is also possible in smaller cities, but there is just more going on in Madrid and Barcelona commerce-wise.




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