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hickles



Joined: 31 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:49 pm    Post subject: Job start/celta times... Reply with quote

I've read the other posts saying jobs start in Poland in september, but also that they recruit in June for these positions. If I do a CELTA ending 31st August will there still be jobs? Do you start applying whilst doing your celta? -Thanks
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Glenlivet



Joined: 21 Mar 2009
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Location: Poland

PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teaching English Abroad is a really good resource book you might like to try. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Teaching-English-Abroad-Susan-Griffith/dp/1854584405/ref=ed_oe_p I've got the 2005 edition and will upgrade to the latest edition when we go to the UK next week. Hundreds of schools worldwide with their contact details and requirements. Make sure you get the 9th edition, they're still selling the 2006 8th edition which is now well out of date.

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simon_porter00



Joined: 09 Nov 2005
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Location: Warsaw, Poland

PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was in krakow, Bell hired their teachers in May. All the other schools hired at the beginning to the end of September. Some hired through the internet but they paid peanuts. You're best bet is to arrive before your CELTA, go round with your CV to all schools you can find (obviously check on here for reputations etc) and say that you're doing your CELTA, will qualify at the end of August and are looking for a job. Bear in mind August is holiday season for schools so getting hold of a school owner or DOS will be difficult. It is a very competitive market especially for teachers wanting to teach in schools so it'd help if you:
can negotiate well
present yourself well
highlight any life experience
highlight any work experience
You'd ideally want to work hard and get a B grade, A grades are as rare as hen's teeth, C grades are 10 a penny. Starting salaries, try for 1zl a min net (and you'd have to be a good negotiator to get this) or 1zl a min gross as your minimum.
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Glenlivet



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

simon_porter00 wrote:
A grades are as rare as hen's teeth,


Really? I'll have to emphasise our certificates more on job applications in that case.
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hickles



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the advice and useful information guys! Smile
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simon_porter00



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenlivet wrote:
simon_porter00 wrote:
A grades are as rare as hen's teeth,


Really? I'll have to emphasize our certificates more on job applications in that case.


When I did my CELTA in Reading, England the course assessors said it was very rare for someone with no previous experience to get an A. With experience it was still difficult. I think there was maybe two of us out of 10 that got a B, I got one I'm pretty sure someone got another.

How they dish 'em out in Krakow I've no idea. The marking standard is supposed to be standardised. Maybe someone who's worked as a CELTA instructor or someone else in the know could shed some light on this?
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hrvatski



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As an interviewer I know that an A grade on CELTA is basically a guarantee of happy times. I've found that B is no more a guarantee of success than a C though. Numerous times now I've seen C candidates streak ahead in a real teaching situation while the Bs wallow in mediocrity. I put it down to some people being better in the academic sphere than in the practicalities of a full-time job, and vice versa.

In fact lately I would even bring into question Krakow's CELTA B awarding competence.
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Glenlivet



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

simon_porter00 wrote:

How they dish 'em out in Krakow I've no idea. The marking standard is supposed to be standardised. Maybe someone who's worked as a CELTA instructor or someone else in the know could shed some light on this?

My wife and I both got A grades, we took our cert. at Intesol in Prague (now closed as an Intesol franchise). We were told that these were the first A grades they had awarded although at the time I put this down to lack of work ethic on the part of previous groups who, by all account, had been more interested in the flesh pots of Prague rather than taking part in lectures and completing projects.
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roywebcafe



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its just a popularity contest when it often comes to grades. The one person who got a B on my course was no better than those with a PASS! Worse in some cases. I am not speaking from sour grapes as I probably deserve a mere PASS. But as i finished my Celta in March I have been unemployed since - due to returning the UK i suppose Sad

Timing is everything IMA! I will have to consider assassinating teachers in Krakow so a school will have to give me a job to fill in the gaps. Which schools do you guys work in by the way??


hrvatski wrote:
As an interviewer I know that an A grade on CELTA is basically a guarantee of happy times. I've found that B is no more a guarantee of success than a C though. Numerous times now I've seen C candidates streak ahead in a real teaching situation while the Bs wallow in mediocrity. I put it down to some people being better in the academic sphere than in the practicalities of a full-time job, and vice versa.

In fact lately I would even bring into question Krakow's CELTA B awarding competence.
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Tracer



Joined: 22 Oct 2008
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Location: Warszawa, PL

PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

roywebcafe wrote:

I will have to consider assassinating teachers in Krakow so a school will have to give me a job to fill in the gaps.

Just make sure none of your machine gun blasts make it up to Warsaw.
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