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jpendon



Joined: 13 Jan 2009
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:51 am    Post subject: Asian-Canadian + Significant Other Reply with quote

Hello!

I am an English native-speaking, Ontario-certified teacher with experience teaching ESL and an Honours Bachelor's Degree in English. I also happen to have an Asian background. I have heard countless stories of Canadian- or American-born Asian teachers being discriminated against in Japan because of a cultural myth that only Caucasians are fit to teach English. Is it really that bad in Japan? Will the colour of my skin hurt my chances of becoming an English teacher?

Are there any agencies in Japan that are more open-minded towards hiring non-Caucasian English teachers than others?

My partner and I want to move to Japan in the near future. We are not married (yet) and he does not have a university degree (only a college diploma). Is his only option right now a working holiday visa?

Since he probably won't be working in Japan, it rests on me to pay the bills. He can do freelance/contract work, but we know that this is not guaranteed income. The question of taxes also comes to mind: if he is a contractor (ie. self-employed), does he pay Canadian taxes or Japanese taxes?

Another problem is our debt. I need a surplus of about 75,000 yen per month to comfortably pay off our debt while in Japan. Can we survive on my teacher's salary and still manage to pay our bills? Or should my partner look into finding a job while in Japan?

Any suggestions or insights would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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JL



Joined: 26 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I, myself, am heading back to Japan after a four+ year absence (excluding a visit last summer). I'll leave the questions of Canadian tax liability to others, as well as the level of income cushion you can expect.
"I have heard countless stories of Canadian- or American-born Asian teachers being discriminated against in Japan because of a cultural myth that only Caucasians are fit to teach English."
I'm not going to tell you that this does not exist. It's true that Japanese have a love/hate complex toward caucasians. But that said, I've known several successful ESL teachers in Japan, who had non-Japanese Asian heritage. If you present yourself as thoroughly and proudly Canadian, and fully confident in your native English and your ESL teaching ability, you should be competitive in the marketplace.
Now, exactly what kind of "marketplace" will be left when you and I get to Japan... that's another matter. Confused . In a very tight competition, if it came down to you, versus a blond-haired blued glamor boy, I'm not saying he won't get picked over you. But on the other hand, you are a female, and traditionally, female ESL teachers have had an edge because there are less of them out there. In fact, I used to work at one school that had an unwritten hiring policy to opt for the female, if all things were otherwise close.
But I've known Filipina American teachers, Chinese-Americans and Chinese-Canadians both (many, fellow Canucks of yours), as well as Korean-Americans. And of course, countless, countless Japanese-Americans. All of them were successful, and so can you be. Again, just put your best Canadian foot forward.

As for your sig. other: "he does not have a university degree (only a college diploma)", when you say "college diploma", do mean what we in the U.S. refer to a two-year college? Because "college" is foremostly associated with a four year school. And if that's the case, he wouldn't be precluded from teaching himself.
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markle



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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Location: Out of Japan

PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll second the notion that your Asian heritage doesn't present an obstacle. I too have friends that got jobs easily.
The significant other is going to be a much more intractable problem.
You said you are a state certified teacher, have you looked into international schools? They pay much better, giving you more options vis a vis the bf.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bit of advice when talking about yourself to Japanese recruiters or employers:

You are Canadian. period
Don't confuse the issue with hyphenated names.

If you look Asian, so be it. Let your passport and a clear declaration that you were born in Canada settle any disputes about being a native English speaking person. There may still be some idiots here that choose to see you only as Asian with no possibility of English coming out of your mouth, but ignore them.

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My partner and I want to move to Japan in the near future. We are not married (yet) and he does not have a university degree (only a college diploma). Is his only option right now a working holiday visa?
No, but it is the most reasonable one. Some people have actually convinced immigration that the college diploma is the equivalent to a bachelor's degree; don't know if you want to go down that route, but if it's a 3-year parchment, you might want to try.

Other options (although these would only permit PT work):
student visa
cultural visa

If you are hopeful about marriage, why not just tie the know in a purely legal manner, then have a ceremony later?

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Since he probably won't be working in Japan, it rests on me to pay the bills. He can do freelance/contract work,
Stop here. Freelance work, any paid work at all, requires a work visa of sorts.

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Another problem is our debt. I need a surplus of about 75,000 yen per month to comfortably pay off our debt while in Japan. Can we survive on my teacher's salary and still manage to pay our bills? Or should my partner look into finding a job while in Japan?
This will be a problem unless you are pretty frugal. If you only rely on your income, that will come to about 250,000 yen/month (add another 50,000 for JET programme). Half of the 250K goes to basic necessities, so you will have 125,000 yen or so to play around with. Take away the monthly debt, and you have 50,000 to use for everything in life except rent, food, utilities, insurance, and phone.

Ask yourself what else you need money for and start adding it up.
Drinking conservatively will eat up that money completely.
If you want sightseeing (and you will), how often?
Any subscriptions? Movie rentals? Books? Fancy hairstyling? Souvenirs? Trips back home? Cable/Satellite TV. Medical prescriptions? Eyeglasses? Emergency medical, especially what is not covered on your insurance plan? Etc.
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jpendon



Joined: 13 Jan 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks you so much for your responses!

markle: I recently looked into international schools and have applied to about 10 of them! Out of curiosity (and excitement), how long does it usually take for a school to respond (if they are interested in me)?
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natsume



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Location: Chongqing, China

PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see international schools in my future, so I keep an eye on the site below. Search around here for answers to your questions/concerns.

http://www.internationalschoolsreview.com/
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Angelfish



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you and your other half get married, then once you arrive in Japan he can register at the relevant local office and will then be permitted to work up to 20 hours a week (I'm not sure if there's a cap on how much he can earn, so if he wanted to do private English teaching on the side, he could rake in a fair bit so long as he shows he's doing less than 20 hours).

As far as the taxes go, I think so long as you both have visa to live and work in Japan, all your taxes are paid in Japan. You should be able to check this out with the Canadian tax authority, although it may be best to call them, because if they're anything like the UK one, the website can be confusing at best... Confused
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seklarwia



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure there was another thread talking about double taxation for Canadians in Japan. Something like, if you more than 4 ties to Canada then you had to pay taxes there too. But don't quote me on that.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Angelfish wrote:
If you and your other half get married, then once you arrive in Japan he can register at the relevant local office and will then be permitted to work up to 20 hours a week (I'm not sure if there's a cap on how much he can earn, so if he wanted to do private English teaching on the side, he could rake in a fair bit so long as he shows he's doing less than 20 hours).
There is a cap of sorts. Dependent visa holders who make over 1.1 million yen per year are no longer exempt on their spouse's taxes. So beware. Otherwise, anything you collect privately doesn't have to count. Nobody here tells the tax authorities what they make privately.
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Angelfish



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought there must be a cap of some sorts, otherwise you could claim to be making 20,000 yen plus an hour to cover the amount you get Wink
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AgentMulderUK



Joined: 22 Sep 2003
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Location: Concrete jungle (Tokyo)

PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:31 am    Post subject: Re: Asian-Canadian + Significant Other Reply with quote

jpendon wrote:
Hello!

I am an English native-speaking, Ontario-certified teacher with experience teaching ESL and an Honours Bachelor's Degree in English. I also happen to have an Asian background. I have heard countless stories of Canadian- or American-born Asian teachers being discriminated against in Japan because of a cultural myth that only Caucasians are fit to teach English. Is it really that bad in Japan? Will the colour of my skin hurt my chances of becoming an English teacher?



Expect to get a lot more discrimination. The colour of your skin will be a factor for many employers here. One of the first things they will ask for is a photograph for the very reason they want to see how you fit to their required image of a teacher. (They also ask Japanese Natiaonals for photos too to make sure they don't have 2 heads or tentacles or anything).
It's not a "cultural myth that only white people are fit to teach English", it's the image customers pay to see. They are not just paying to learn English but paying for time to interact with what they perceive (rightly or wrongly) as the "real deal". Teaching ability is secondary.

I am not arguing the rights and wrongs of it, but that;s how it is in many cases (not all). There are many exceptions and many different types of employer -some have even been known to offer jobs based on teaching ability (shock horror)


If you don't want to face descrimination (positive sometimes) or negative, Japan is not the place to be.
It's effectively a single race society. Fact.

Just out of curiousity was does Ontario-certified mean? Certified mad? Certified to teach swimming or English or what?

Whilst am I here, I assume you are from England then, as you wrote "I am an English native-speaking etc" So how come you did teacher training in Ontario? Or did you mean to say "I am a native English speaker..."
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jpendon



Joined: 13 Jan 2009
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again for all the advice! I got a job at an international school! The principal and I still have to iron out the details, but I am very excited Smile

Two questions (for now!): How long does it take for a Canadian citizen to get a work visa (with the employer's help)? I plan to get married soon, so how long will it take for my spouse to get a dependent visa? The position starts this year, so we have a lot of work to do and very little time to do it!

Thanks again!
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jpendon wrote:
Thanks again for all the advice! I got a job at an international school!
Congratulations.

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Two questions (for now!): How long does it take for a Canadian citizen to get a work visa (with the employer's help)?
4-8 weeks on average and with no delays or problems in paperwork

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I plan to get married soon, so how long will it take for my spouse to get a dependent visa?
Probably about the same length of time.

When is "soon"? Perhaps you can both apply at the same time.
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jpendon



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Soon" is probably about 3 months from now.

I'm assuming that I will have to be in Japan by late July - early August. We will try to get married as quickly as possible (nothing special for now!) and try to apply for visas together.

Since it takes 4-8 weeks to receive a dependent visa, it sounds like my spouse will have to follow me to Japan. It's not what we want, but we'll do what we have to do.

Is there any way to speed up the process? I've heard of Canadian government services that can be expedited by paying an additional fee. I don't know if anything like that exists regarding Japanese visas.

Thanks!
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your SO can come to Japan on a tourist visa, and apply for a dependent visa while in Japan- it's done all the time. There is no way to speed up the process unless you have a compelling reason, in which case they may be sympathetic.
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