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Don't use Top Education Recruiting Agency- my story
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rachelj



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:56 pm    Post subject: Don't use Top Education Recruiting Agency- my story Reply with quote

Hi, my name is Rachel and I just arrived not-so-long ago to teach here in China. However, I'm compelled by my bad experiences so far (one of them being almost raped by my employer), that I am leaving China and going back home.

My story started when I took a job offer from a recruiter named Sophia Cheng from Top Education recruiting agency. I was promised to be placed at a mid-level university with an agreed salary of 7000RMB with a free apartment.
However, once I got here, my director(Mr. Xu) had me sign another contract that was all in Chinese. I asked for an English translation and he said that it would be a few days- I never received it. However, based on my experiences working in South Korea, I said that if I didn't have an English copy, I won't work and he retorted that if I don't work I won't get my work and resident permit- so I signed it. Then I started noticing that my paid was only 4500Rmb (far below what was promised) and I took it up with Mr. Xu. He then showed me the Chinese contract and had one of his assistants translate it for me. In it, it stipulated that I 'agreed' to a paycut of about 2500RMB and that I agreed to a increase of 2 hours per day of work! I stormed out of his office and got my original copy of my contract and demanded that he abide by this one. He said that since I signed the 'new' copy (under threat of not getting my work and resident permit), the old copy was null and void.
Well, as soon as I finished work I called my recruiter, Ms. Cheng, and told her what happened and asked her to help resolve this mess. She stated that her job was to get me into the country and into the school and what happens after that was between me and the school. But I refreshed her memory when I asked if I had a problem with the school would she help resolve it and she said "absolutely"- that was a mistake to trust her......
This began the process of me negotiating another 1200RMB to my contract with the promise that I would be quiet about the matter and I would leave at the end of the semester.
Well, the end of the semester came and we all had a huge staff party, part of which was held as a farewell party for me. Anyway, Mr. Xu called me into his office to congradulate me on a job well done. But as soon as I go into the office, he locks the door and proceeds to put his hands all over me. I try to scream, but he put his hand over my mouth. I bite it and run out of the school. I was staying at a hotel so I don't go back to my room where he would find me. The next day, several teachers and a staff member find me and ask to talk to me. They wanted me not to say anything to anyone about what Mr. Xu did for fear that it would hurt the university's reputation, in which I responded that they should go f*** themselves. Then I get a call from my so-called recruiter, Ms. Cheng, telling me that she is aware of the situation. I ask her what she is going to do about it and she said that she talked to Mr. Xu and he agreed that he would pay the remainder of my salary (including a "bonus") in exchange for me to keep quiet about what happened. I asked her what would happen if I don't and she said that it would be my word against his and that the PSB might take his side. I felt all this was bull and I just said I want my money and I want to go home. She said that since I didn't finish all of my contract, I was not entitled to my flight ticket home, so I had to call my parents to buy me a ticket out of this nightmare. We got into a shouting match and she said that everyone involved- the school, the director and herself, would lose face if this got out. But what about me? What about what I had to endure? Does anyone care about my safety and well-being? obviously not!
Please, don't get me wrong, the students were nice and the people I came in contact with showed nothing but kindness, but it was all this stuff that happened at the school and the ambivalence I was shown my the recruiter who promised to help really left a sour feeling in me about working in China.

I just want to warn you, please don't trust this recruiter--- who is only worried about her commission more than what happens to the teachers she place and the schools she deals with......avoid Top Education like the plague!!!!
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samhouston



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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avoid Top Education like the plague!!!!


We got that part, but which university are we also supposed to avoid?
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Mister Al



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

samhouston wrote:
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avoid Top Education like the plague!!!!


We got that part, but which university are we also supposed to avoid?


Terrible experience Rachel and you have our sympathies.
Please let us know which university at some point, maybe after you have have left the country.

Good luck.
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The Ever-changing Cleric



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:26 am    Post subject: Re: Don't use Top Education Recruiting Agency- my story Reply with quote

rachelj wrote:
She said that since I didn't finish all of my contract, I was not entitled to my flight ticket home, so I had to call my parents to buy me a ticket out of this nightmare. We got into a shouting match and she said that everyone involved- the school, the director and herself, would lose face if this got out. But what about me? What about what I had to endure? Does anyone care about my safety and well-being? obviously not!

Sorry to hear the bad news. But this is yet another warning to anyone thinking of coming to China. Make sure you have enough money on hand so you can get out. If the school knows you're broke, they have you where they want you.
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evaforsure



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This began the process of me negotiating another 1200RMB to my contract with the promise that I would be quiet about the matter and I would leave at the end of the semester.



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Well, the end of the semester came and we all had a huge staff party, part of which was held as a farewell party for me. Anyway, Mr. Xu called me into his office to congratulate me on a job well done.




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I ask her what she is going to do about it and she said that she talked to Mr. Xu and he agreed that he would pay the remainder of my salary (including a "bonus") in exchange for me to keep quiet about what happened.


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She said that since I didn't finish all of my contract, I was not entitled to my flight ticket home, so I had to call my parents to buy me a ticket out of this nightmare.


You were paid off once to keep quiet ..I gather from getting a bump in pay so as not to let other FTs know.. what were you paid off to be quiet bout? And let me get this clear. you agreed to leave at the end of the term ... to insure that pay raise..


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I bite it and run out of the school. I was staying at a hotel so I don't go back to my room where he would find me.


Bite marks make really good evidence...were you already staying at the hotel?

Then they threw a party and the boss.. congratulated you on a job well done...unusual of a Chinese boss to congratulate you when you had a contract conflict ..but I suppose this was a ploy? A ploy to lure you into the ofc., and the incident that happen there you were paid off, again once.. but this tender wasn�t enough to secure a ticket home...

And then staff and recruiter heard?

They came to you and requested you not report an attempted Rape for the sake of Face�

How did this become office info� as it may have been the leverage you needed to get those bonuses.. But it looks like it would be the school (as well as the head hunter) you report as the FAO is the man who has committed Sexual battery�.the headhunter and the staff become accessories after the fact ..in their effort to cover up the infraction and if your allegations are true should shoulder some of the burden�
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rachelj



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just left China and I am still freaking out-- this is the first time this has ever happen to me
The whole party saw me run out, so obviously they knew something was up, the department I worked in was small and I was the only FT they had on staff

I am blaming the recruiter most of all because after all the problems I had and despite her assurances that if I got in a jam, she would help me work it out, she didn't--like the person above said, the recruiter should have helped, but she didn't and look at what happened!!!...all so they could save face, that sounds like a load of bull!

Look- I am not putting down China, if thats what you all afraid of.
I just feel betrayed by the school and most of all, the recruiter
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Ariadne



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

However bad the recruiter was, it seems to me that the guy who tried to cut your pay and then tried to rape you should bear the largest share of guilt in the whole sorry mess. Why do you think the recruiter should be held more responsible? Is it because you trusted the recruiter and she left you in the lurch?

There is a lot for newbies to learn from your situation. Thanks for sharing it with us.

I'm so sorry you had to deal with such an ugly and terrifying event.

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evaforsure



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Look- I am not putting down China, if thats what you all afraid of.
I just feel betrayed by the school and most of all, the recruiter


As both contributed to your situation.. it would be appropriate to list both as co-instigators of the situation.....and by all means put down China...it is fraught with situations, although not as severe as Sexual Battery, but certainly just as serious and with a potential to leave the FT stranded...after all it was the school that had the responsibility of providing you with a tkt home....and "the whole staff" knowing as you have contended would be a great motivating factor in just illuminating the problem so I am surprised that the FAO didn�t make sure you were on the plane ..... This school would have been up a creek if you had you preferred charges and the testimony of those who witness you leaving the room (in tears)would have been very damaging...
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Robin53



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:06 am    Post subject: Dont use top education recruiting agency - my story Reply with quote

This is a disgraceful story Rachel. If you were Chinese and posted it onto a blog, it would go to the newspapers, and the recruiter and the teacher would both loose their jobs. You would be compensated with a lot more than the sums you mentioned.

About the contract - that counts as a dispute which could not be resolved by you or the school, therefore you had the right to go to the city Foreign Affairs Department of the Education Bureau to ask them to mediate.

About the sexual harrassment - you have the right to go to the police about it whether or not you think you have accepted money to keep quiet.

I think its a mistake by FTs' to think they are not allowed to seek justice, or feel too afraid to. With both things that happened to you, you need a Chinese friend to help you contact responsible people in the agencies mentioned above to act on your behalf.

Another mistake FTs make is to keep too close to themselves and not try to become a part of the Chinese community where, over time, good friends can be made who will help out in situations such as Rachel described.

If you are already at home Rachel there is nothing from stopping you from going to your local newspaper with this story. Its a disgrace that the recruiter, and the Chinese teacher can get away with such behaviour. They got off the hook very easily with you, and they will do it again.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rachel, that's a terrible thing that should never have happened. I hope that now you're safe at home you can begin to move on.

Some posters say you should have reported the incident to the PSB, but I'm not so sure it would have helped you - mainly because it would be the word of a foreign female teacher against the word of her employer, a Chinese man. And sadly, you stand to lose if Mr Xu/the school have guanxi with the local police and the other school staff felt their jobs were on the line if they spoke out. After all, and I don't mean to diminish the shock and anguish you rightfully felt, but it seems that by defending yourself you stopped what you were sure was going to happen. And please don't get me wrong, you did what you needed to do, but had you informed the police, Mr Xu could have said that he had done nothing, the onus of proof would have been on you. With no actual rape (thank God!) so no physical evidence, and no torn clothing, and no bruises and no witnesses, and what's worse with you having bitten Mr Xu, he could have claimed that you attacked him! At the very least the school (even the police) might say that "nothing" happened and that Mr Xu maybe got a little heavy-handed and that you misinterpreted what was happening but that he meant no harm so it's best if the whole issue were dropped [please understand, I'm not saying that, I'm saying the school/police might have said that].

Of course you could report the assault to the PSB or the newspapers/internet sites, but with no evidence and if no-one backs up your story, then again it's your word against his and you might even be accused of libel (but I'm no lawyer, so I don't really know).

As things stand, perhaps the best thing to do is try to learn what you can from the situation, put the experience behind you, and try to get on with your life. I hope you can.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

do u have a link so we can be sure as to the agency....
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Robin53



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:50 am    Post subject: dont use top education recruiting agency - my story Reply with quote

JGC458 - although it is nice of you to give Rachel some sympathy, I think you gave her the wrong advice. I just don't believe the justifications you gave for not taking it further. I hear this sort of thing from FTs a lot, but in my experience it is not true. Both situations were good reasons to take it further, and with a good Chinese friend on her side, I think Rachel's situation would have been handled properly by the Chinese authorities. Chinese people would do something about a situation like this, and it is wrong to think that FTs should just put up with bad or illegal behaviour and let time heal the wounds. Why would anyone do that?
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JGC458



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:09 am    Post subject: Re: dont use top education recruiting agency - my story Reply with quote

Robin53 wrote:
JGC458 - although it is nice of you to give Rachel some sympathy, I think you gave her the wrong advice. I just don't believe the justifications you gave for not taking it further. I hear this sort of thing from FTs a lot, but in my experience it is not true. Both situations were good reasons to take it further, and with a good Chinese friend on her side, I think Rachel's situation would have been handled properly by the Chinese authorities. Chinese people would do something about a situation like this, and it is wrong to think that FTs should just put up with bad or illegal behaviour and let time heal the wounds. Why would anyone do that?


Robin, I agree wholeheartedly that if Rachel has proof or witnesses (willing to speak on her behalf) then the seriousness of the assault certainly justifies trying to prosecute.

But without evidence or anyone to back up her version, then I worry that she will go through additional emotional strain with little hope of a positive result. She might even lose money if she needs to hire lawyers - though I really don't know if she would need to hire any.

I'm not really trying advise her either way. I'm trying to point out some things that she may not have thought about, but which could influence what happens/could be relevant if she took things further.

Robin, your position relies on Rachel having a good Chinese friend. From what she's said, it appears she doesn't have one - at least not at that school. But I do agree with you, with at least one good witness, maybe some justice could be done.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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With no actual rape (thank God!) so no physical evidence, and no torn clothing, and no bruises and no witnesses, and what's worse with you having bitten Mr Xu, he could have claimed that you attacked him!


The position of the hand over the mouth would indicate perhaps a struggle would have taken place and physical evidence would have been present ..also an attack of this nature is usually punctuated by a scream or a scuffle .. which may have produced sounds coming from the office.. and the running and crying from the office during a party ..an event to congratulate her for a job well done. .and a farewell party for the FT...would have surely let loose a lot of inquisitive looks. and we know from her post that other co workers contacted her...at the hotel, maybe and ask her not to report it. .for the sake of face.....was it the end o the contract. .no; she didn�t get the bonus due to the headhunter telling her that she hadn�t completed the contract...according to her post...so if things did happen as reported.. then the best option would have been to call police at the moment of the attack...

What we don�t know is which agency was this

( a website or email address would help in avoiding this kind of event in the future by identifying the headhunter, this person, and the school he worked for)

and what school was this...

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he retorted that if I don't work I won't get my work and resident permit- so I signed it.


Also ... I can understand getting sandbagged into signing a contract...that is not Englsh but the numbers to be paid .. at least in my experience have always been readable.... I think it would be valuable for many newbies and myself ..as I cant imagine how this came about with the info given....
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also noted the fact that your colleagues 'knew' what had happened between Mr Xu and you even though no one could possibly have 'leaked' such news.

Either Mr Xu is a veteran groper and thus has a certain 'reputation', or your colleagues were part of the scheme - unlikely.

Yes, sorry to read that such things do happen even in China - they happen rarely to female laowais. But even asingle time is one time too many.

Since you signed two separate contracts, it would be important to know who drew up the first contract that stipulated a salary of 7'000 yuan in English only. Mr Xu's school?

If so, then you could most likely take them to court for misleading you. Even an English-language contract must be signed and stamped. You can have it retranslated into Chinese.

My guess, however, is that you signed a pro forma agreement for 7'000 yuan that bears no stamp. Or it was prepared by the agent.

Who sponsored your visa or RP?

That would shine badly-needed light on the responsibility of the main culprit here!
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