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redeyes



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:26 am    Post subject: Air pollution in Saudi Reply with quote

What is the air pollution like in the KSA, particularly in Dharhan?

Thanks all,

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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know about Dhahran, but air quality here in Riyadh isn't too bad for a city this size. After all, there is almost no heavy industry and while there's certainly a lot of traffic, most cars are new and hence relatively un-polluting. The dry desert air can be a problem though, especially for asthma sufferers.
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also in saudi



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of dust in the air in Riyadh.
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Cleo says the main things to avoid are sandstorms (there was spectacular one in Riyadh a month ago with a wall of dust higher than the Faisaliyah tower).

There are petrochemical industries in Jubail and Yanbu. The trick is not to live downwind. But even then there is permanent monitoring of emissions.

Problems are likely to be from the lack of humidity (probably less of a problem in Dhahran) and from permanent colds, which can leave you sneezing eight to twelve months a year.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cleopatra wrote:
Don't know about Dhahran, but air quality here in Riyadh isn't too bad for a city this size. After all, there is almost no heavy industry and while there's certainly a lot of traffic, most cars are new and hence relatively un-polluting. The dry desert air can be a problem though, especially for asthma sufferers.


I live in Riyadh and although it may be true about the majority of cars being new, there are still enough rattle traps spewing out noxtious black fumes to make life miserable. It becomes especially noticeable if you have to walk anywhere. Add the noisy traffic of horns blarring etc and the dull concrete city landscape (very little greenery anywhere) and you get the ultimate Riyadh experience. Certainly, Riyadh is not the most pleasant city in KSA.
In my opinion the Asir region (Abha) is the nicest place interms of air quality, not too hot or humid, but even there you have alot of vehicles that spew out ghastly fumes.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stephen Jones wrote:
Problems are likely to be from the lack of humidity (probably less of a problem in Dhahran) and from permanent colds, which can leave you sneezing eight to twelve months a year.

Just a note for those of you who may be having this problem. If you are sneezing 8-12 months of the year, you don't have a cold, you obviously have an allergy. If your current doctor is telling you that it is a cold, I suggest a new doctor.

A new country often brings with it new allergies - just as if you had allergies back home (where it might have been green and rainy), you will find that they disappear in the desert.

VS
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Sheikh N Bake



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems noteworthy to me that the ubiquitous small and medium-sized delivery trucks in the Gulf Middle East are extremely noisy and emit the most egregious type of diesel exhaust, without any emission control, apparently. They are typically Mitsubishi models and are certainly not seen or heard in Japan. The Japanese make these inferior pollution wagons strictly for developing countries that have weak anti-pollution standards.
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SD BOY



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Sheikh,

Ever the cynic....and, as usual, right on the ball.

The air in Jubail was rumored to be among the most poisoned on earth. However, as with anything in Islamic Paradise, there is no way of verifying this. Pittsburgh and Essen may have their pollution problems, but you can be reasonably assured no Satanic mill is releasing cyanide fumes into the atmosphere.
No such luck in KSA.
And it's not just in the Kingdom...read a similar thread on the UAE page.
When I first went to Abu Dhabi in 1980's, the city was surrounded by white sand beaches and clear, warm water. I wouldn't go swimming there today on a bet...except, possibly at the Intercontinental Club on the east shore.

"Where's the curriculum!!!"
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Add the noisy traffic of horns blarring etc and the dull concrete city landscape (very little greenery anywhere) and you get the ultimate Riyadh experience. Certainly, Riyadh is not the most pleasant city in KSA


That may be true but the OP was asking specifically about air quality, not noise or urban landscapes. I still believe that, the extreme dryness of the air aside, air quality in Riyadh is pretty good for a city of a few million people.
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SD BOY



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to work in Industrial City..on the outskirts of Riyadh.
That alone probably shortened my life-span by 5 years.

The air quality in Riyadh is decidedly bad, if not toxic.
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HCEG1



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SD BOY wrote:
I used to work in Industrial City..on the outskirts of Riyadh.
That alone probably shortened my life-span by 5 years.

The air quality in Riyadh is decidedly bad, if not toxic.


Agreed. The air quality in and around Riyadh is worse than anything I have encountered anywhere in the Middle East.

A constant haze of dirt/dust/pollution lingers, made even worse by the horrible constant dryness. There are also numerous sandstorms which make living there almost ubearable at times.

All in all, Riyadh is a dreadful place.
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007



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SD BOY wrote:
I used to work in Industrial City..on the outskirts of Riyadh.
That alone probably shortened my life-span by 5 years.

The air quality in Riyadh is decidedly bad, if not toxic.

How come that your life-span is shortened by 5 years if you still alive, and don�t know how long you will survive?
Your life-span cannot be shortened until you destiny is reached! Laughing
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Kipling



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agh Mr Bond, many fall short of what they think they are destined to be.
Between the idea and the reality falls the shadow. Sad Idea
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eclectic



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how is the air quality in Jiddah???
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trapezius



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Air quality per se is fine, but there are other factors you should look at.

Humidity is very high here, ranging between 80% and 100% most of the year. It is really stifling and takes the energy out of you. I prefer dry heat.

And then there are the days when there is lots of dust and sand in the air, about 10 to 20 times a year.
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