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[misskaty]

What opportunities are there for teaching English in the UK with a degree and CELTA?

I know there are many summer jobs available, but I'm interested in year round work.

I'm doing my CELTA in September, and I have four months experience teaching English to children and adults in Poland.

I've seen that I can volunteer for places such as the refugee council, which I am interested in doing, but I also need a salary.

Can anyone suggest anything? I've heard that it used to be possible to teach in colleges with a CELTA but now teachers must have a Cert Ed.

Thanks for any advice.

[SueH]

[coledavis]

Try Edwards Language School, Ealing, west London. Friendly school.

[Phil_b]

Look here http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=51917&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

Personally I reckon you should try getting some hours in an FE college, they pay better and look after you better...

[misskaty]

Thanks for the advice...I have applied to a few schools in London and Cambridge which said they accept just the CELTA. Not sure if I can actually afford to live there on what they're paying but I'll see...

[Chris_Crossley]

[Englishish]

Chris, you should be able to land a job at an FE collegewith just the CELTA as long as you agree to undertake further training, namely the DTE(E)LLS (part time over two years. See the link Phil ,mentioned: http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=51917&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15.

Also, you only need to go on to get full QTS if you are working there fulltime. When I was working in an FE college 5 years ago, there were only a few teachers who were actually on full-time permanent contracts; the vast majority were 'Proportional lecturers' on on-going temporary contracts. (The actual number of hours worked are irrelevant as to whether you were full-time or not. Full time permanant meant that you got paid an actual salary as opposed to an hourly wage - and also had to be on site all day whether you were teaching or not!) That was a while ago but I doubt if much has changed.

So as long as you'd be willing to get the further qualification (which I think the college pays for) you should be okay. It's worth looking into further anyway.

[Chris_Crossley]

[Phil_b]

Just in case there weren't enough acronyms here, I thought that I'd through another few into the mix. QTS in the FE sector is QTLS, looked after by the IFL.

All the details are here:

http://www.ifl.ac.uk/qtls-atls

if you already have QTS, look at this document:

http://www.lluk.org/documents/orientation-guidance-for-qualified-teachers-entering-further-education.pdf

While it is in theory required, the reality is more that a commitment to get it is required. If you want to work long term in the sector, you really should try to get it, but you don't need it to start out.

[Englishish]

Chris, if you had QTS for secondary education previously you should surely be able to get work in that sector again. It's not my area so I don't know how things are likely to have changed (/what I'm talking about!) but even assuming you had to jump through an extra hoop or two it sounds like you've done most of the hard work. There's still a serious teacher shortage problem in the UK at secondary level despite trying to encourage people to become teachers by offering golden hellos, incentives to get qualified, bonuses for remaining, incentives for returning teachers etc.

I can't see the situation changing too soon so I really can't see you having too many difficulties getting back in. I suspect there would be easier and there would be more incentives for returning to teach in secondary schools that to become an ESOL teacher in FE and as that is where your interest lies, I can't see any reason why you'd need to consider going into FE.