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Univ. Southern Queensland, which Masters program is best?

 
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themeepsong



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:49 am    Post subject: Univ. Southern Queensland, which Masters program is best? Reply with quote

I'll give you a brief bio first;

-I have 3 years of Business English experience in Korea
-3 years of experience teaching at an Elementary School in Korea
-a TEFL and CELTA certificate

I would like to start teaching at Universities in the future(in non-English speaking nations), but I may end up in Canada at some point, perhaps teaching at an Elementary School there.

I'm considering doing the Master of Applied Linguistics or Master of Education.

Perhaps with my TEFL and CELTA, doing the Master of Applied Linguistics would be overkill. Also, if I had the Master of Education, it would probably open more doors in Canada if I chose to move there.

* also if anyone knows, does a Master of Education act as teacher's license in Canada? I obviously haven't done much research on the topic.

The Master of Education seems like it might be more practical and it looks a little more sexy on a resume, I guess.

Any help is appreciated, including their thoughts on the USQ or any other online masters programs. thanks. cheers.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use Dave's search facility to locate posts submitted by a member called "Gordon". He finished his M.Appl.Ling., through USQ, about 2-3 years ago. If his posts to the main Dave's fora don't refer to his Master's studies, then go Dave's Teacher Training Forum and do a search there. (You might also want to submit a query to that forum re the M.Ed. v M.Appl.Ling. issue ). I vaguely recall that Gordon appeared quite satisfied with his USQ course - but, there have been other posters who have had some misgivings about USQ.

I, myself, completed an MA (Applied Linguistics) programme, through the University of England (www.une.edu.au ), about 3 years ago. It was ok - bit theoretical, though (yet, still learnt a lot !) - and, of course, it certainly makes my CV look good ! However,, the number of units (ie subjects) being taught each year is often a bit limited. But, a good thing about the programme is that they'll allow students to concurrently enrol in a limited number of subjects being offered by other departments - including those being offered by other universities - for cross-crediting towards their MA (Appl.Ling.) degrees. For further information about this Master's degree, contact Dr Karen Woodman, the programme coordinator (she's Canadian, BTW !). UNE also offers M.Ed. programmes.

You might also want to look into the M.Appl.Ling. programme being offered by Macquarie University (located in Sydney). That uni is probably regarded as having Australia's leading Applied Linguistics research centre. A number of the world's leading lights in the areas of Applied Linguistics and TEFL have taught at Macquarie (eg, David Nunan).

You should contact the educational authorities in your province in order to ascertain their pre-requisites for teaching positions.

Peter
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Jetgirly



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In general, an M.Ed wouldn't qualify you for K-12 teaching certification in Canada. You usually need a teacher training B.Ed program. In my province you need:

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a minimum of sixteen years of schooling inclusive of: four years of university education and a recognized degree which includes or is supplemented with a structured, pre-service teacher preparation program from an institution acceptable to the Minister of Education. The program must include at minimum, 48 semester hour credits in professional teacher education coursework inclusive of a minimum of 10 weeks in supervised student teaching at the elementary or secondary level.


M.Ed and related M.A. programs aren't really considered "structured, pre-service teacher preparation programs" because they don't cover the whole range of things a teacher would need to know. As well, they don't (always?) have the supervised student teaching.

In addition, completing a "structured, pre-service teacher preparation program" isn't a guarantee that you'll get certification, as universities are responsible for delivering the programs but you have to apply to the provincial government for your certification. Another requirement for the government to issue you a teaching certificate is that you are, and I quote, "a fit and proper person." This isn't a requirement for passing the university program.

Where I live, new teachers only receive temporary certification. If you don't teach four hundred days in your first three years (full-time is two hundred days per year, so this would only happen if you were subbing, took maternity leave or didn't find a job, etc.) of certification, you have to re-apply and you'll only be given another temporary certificate that is good for another three years. To get permanent certification you must teach those four hundred days in three years. Time spent teaching in other countries or provinces will not count towards obtaining permanent certification, but if you're in an international school or teaching in a public school in another country it may count towards extra years of experience on the salary scale (which is administered by the teachers' union and is currently between five and nine months backlogged).
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themeepsong



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! I really appreciate the earnest responses.

I'll continue to do a little more investigating.

cheers.

ps additional advice or comments are still more than welcome
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