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Jaime1
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 Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 10:43 am Post subject: What is the best prefecture in Japan or best ward in Tokyo? |
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What is the best prefecture or ward in Japan/Tokyo in terms of:
Nightlife (clubs)
Live Music (Rock)
Food ( I like Seafood/pork)
Comfort
Less Stress
Entertainment/Interesting place (art museums, photographic areas)
Shopping (electronics)
Wow factor (Wow, look at that!)
Environment (nice scenery, aesthetic beauty)
Electronics Market (something similar to Yongsan Electronics Market in Seoul)
What area do you live in? What do you like or dislike about it?
You don't have to change your visa if you change jobs in Japan do you?
These are the wards in Tokyo
Adachi
Arakawa
Bunkyō
Chiyoda
Chūō
Edogawa
Itabashi
Katsushika
Kita
Kōtō
Meguro
Minato
Nakano
Nerima
Ōta
Setagaya
Shibuya
Shinagawa
Shinjuku
Suginami
Sumida
Taitō
Toshima
These are the Prefectures
Hokkaidō
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1. Hokkaidō
Tōhoku
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2. Aomori
3. Iwate
4. Miyagi
5. Akita
6. Yamagata
7. Fukushima
Kantō
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8. Ibaraki
9. Tochigi
10. Gunma
11. Saitama
12. Chiba
13. Tokyo
14. Kanagawa
Chūbu
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15. Niigata
16. Toyama
17. Ishikawa
18. Fukui
19. Yamanashi
20. Nagano
21. Gifu
22. Shizuoka
23. Aichi
Kansai
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24. Mie
25. Shiga
26. Kyoto
27. Osaka
28. Hyōgo
29. Nara
30. Wakayama
Chūgoku
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31. Tottori
32. Shimane
33. Okayama
34. Hiroshima
35. Yamaguchi
Shikoku
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36. Tokushima
37. Kagawa
38. Ehime
39. Kōchi
Kyūshū
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40. Fukuoka
41. Saga
42. Nagasaki
43. Kumamoto
44. Ōita
45. Miyazaki
46. Kagoshima
47. Okinawa |
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bearcat
Joined: 08 May 2004
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"best" is relative and subjective.
Some of your criteria would also be potentially not found with some of the other criteria that you have.
If you're reasoning for this survey is that you're planning to come here to work, it would suit you better to simply see what jobs are available with the working conditions that you desire and then see about the living conditions around that area as opposed to throwing out a broad spectrum survey.
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You don't have to change your visa if you change jobs in Japan do you?
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In most cases no.
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Company Calls
Joined: 16 May 2009
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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I have yet to go to Japan, so I can't answer. But after reading this, it should be fair to say that almost everyone understands that any response to the original post is relative and subject. How about just giving your personal answer to the best of your ability then? The reader should be able to take it with a grain of salt. It's always nice to have suggestions even though what's suggested might not be for everyone. That's OK, though.
As for me, I already have a job lined up, so I wouldn't be using this criteria for choosing my job. It would be nice to consider, however, when I am over there. That doesn't mean I'm going to rush out somewhere because of your answer and then in turn blame you if it didn't fulfill my wildest dreams. That's silly.
You can always put a disclaimer before your answer if you feel that is appropriate.
| bearcat wrote: |
"best" is relative and subject.
Some of your criteria would also be potentially not found with some of the other criteria that you have.
If [your] reasoning for this survey is that you're planning to come here to work, it would suit you better to simply see what jobs are available with the working conditions that you desire and then see about the living conditions around that area as opposed to throwing out a broad spectrum survey.
| Jaime1 wrote: |
You don't have to change your visa if you change jobs in Japan do you?
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In most cases no. |
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bearcat
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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| The OP comes across having an unrealistic and contradictory request for information. Rather than humor that, I gave a suggestion for them to refine such to fit their supposed needs. |
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Company Calls
Joined: 16 May 2009
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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You gave a suggestion based on your inference of his/her needs, not what was explicitly asked. From the questions the poster asked, working information could be derived that has the potential to be beneficial. By saying something like, "I think this ward has great seafood," I don't see anything unrealistic or contradictory in that response.
| bearcat wrote: |
| The OP comes across having an unrealistic and contradictory request for information. Rather than humor that, I gave a suggestion for them to refine such to fit their supposed needs. |
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bearcat
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Company Calls wrote: |
You gave a suggestion based on your inference of his/her needs, not what was explicitly asked. From the questions the poster asked, working information could be derived that has the potential to be beneficial. By saying something like, "I think this ward has great seafood," I don't see anything unrealistic or contradictory in that response.
| bearcat wrote: |
| The OP comes across having an unrealistic and contradictory request for information. Rather than humor that, I gave a suggestion for them to refine such to fit their supposed needs. |
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Ok, when you find such a location here in Japan that you can say meets all the needs of the OP objectively, you come let the OP and the rest of us know... never mind being here over 10 years and I don't think such exists  |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 12844
Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: What is the best prefecture in Japan or best ward in Tok |
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| Jaime1 wrote: |
| What is the best prefecture or ward in Japan/Tokyo |
If you're looking to rank the whole country, you're wasting time.
No one has lived everywhere and experienced all of those things here. By the way, it's pretty clear that you are interested only in non-work-related matters. Why don't you post questions about the best places to work?
"Comfort" and "Less stress". Yeah, right. By whose standards and by what definition?
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| Electronics Market (something similar to Yongsan Electronics Market in Seoul) |
Ah, another person disappointed/disgruntled in Korea wanting to move to Japan. Sorry. Not all that comparable, certainly not by the multitude of issues/standards you are asking for.
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| What area do you live in? What do you like or dislike about it? |
Why do you you ask? It would be better if you simply stated what you want out of life here and let people tell you what comes relatively close. It will not be 100% dead on.
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| You don't have to change your visa if you change jobs in Japan do you? |
This is not Korea. Changing jobs, well, if your new job still remains within the description of the old one, then no, you don't have to change your visa. However, if you go from teacher to engineer, for example, then yes you do.
Even so, there are different work visas for different types of teaching positions. See my last remarks in this post so we can help you.
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These are the wards in Tokyo
These are the Prefectures |
Yeah, we know. You don't have to tell people on this forum.
| Company Calls wrote: |
| after reading this, it should be fair to say that almost everyone understands that any response to the original post is relative and subject. How about just giving your personal answer to the best of your ability then? |
Because it's pointless without knowing what the OP wants to hear. You said it yourself when you wrote "relative and subjective".
Jaime1,
What sort of lifestyle do you want in Japan? Tell us, and we might be able to let you know what places where we live/lived come close in some areas of your parameters.
And, why have you not continued this line of interrogation on the other thread you created a short time ago
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=62663&highlight=
nor even acknowledged the people (like me) who gave you some answers there?
| bearcat wrote: |
| If you're reasoning for this survey is that you're planning to come here to work, it would suit you better to simply see what jobs are available with the working conditions that you desire and then see about the living conditions around that area as opposed to throwing out a broad spectrum survey. |
Similar to what I wrote. Let me just add that teaching jobs are not easy to get here anymore. The market is flooded and the economy is in the toilet. But, Jaime1, what sort of job are you hoping to get, and what are your qualifications? Help us to help you.
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Company Calls
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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OK! We've established there is no such thing as objectivity in this topic. Who is asking for that? If you ask for the best, it will always be subjective. So instead of playing semantics, how about giving what you find to be the best in the areas you know? If more people throw in their ideas after that, it gives something to work with. It would be just like checking out a tourist guide: They give suggestions that they think are the best and people might enjoy. So you could say "X ward has great entertainment and scenery, but the food isn't the best."  |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Company Calls wrote: |
| instead of playing semantics, how about giving what you find to be the best in the areas you know? |
Because the OP never said thank you the first time (see the other thread), nor has given enough info on what he/she wants.
Go ahead, Company Calls. Oh, but you have never been here...
I'm very glad to help (see the other post and what I contributed), but this post is far too broad. |
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Company Calls
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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| How is it pointless? Example: "In my experience, X has the best scenery; Y has the best food; I think Z has great electronics." That can be useful. I don't see what's so difficult about that! For example, if you come to Michigan, I think Birmingham has great shopping, go to the west side of the state or up north if you want scenery, etc. |
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bearcat
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Company Calls wrote: |
| How is it pointless? Example: "In my experience, X has the best scenery; Y has the best food; I think Z has great electronics." That can be useful. I don't see what's so difficult about that! For example, if you come to Michigan, I think Birmingham has great shopping, go to the west side of the state or up north if you want scenery, etc. |
Because thats not what the OP has asked nor when taken into context recently with the OP's other postings going to really generate much help. |
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Vince
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Location: U.S.
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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I lived only in Tokyo. Based on all the things you list as priorities, I think Tokyo would be a good starting point for you. Tokyo is filled with people from other areas of Japan, so you'd be able to ask people about their hometowns and decide if eventual relocation would suit you.
Tokyo is very well connected by excellent public transit, so there's no need to search for a ward that best combines a particular set of qualities. Just hop on the train, and the whole city is yours.
For electronics, Akihabara is the place to go. For museums (and a zoo), try Ueno. For reducing stress, I'd live on the outskirts of Tokyo (for example, Kanagawa or Saitama). |
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Company Calls
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| bearcat wrote: |
| Company Calls wrote: |
| How is it pointless? Example: "In my experience, X has the best scenery; Y has the best food; I think Z has great electronics." That can be useful. I don't see what's so difficult about that! For example, if you come to Michigan, I think Birmingham has great shopping, go to the west side of the state or up north if you want scenery, etc. |
Because thats not what the OP has asked nor when taken into context recently with the OP's other postings going to really generate much help. |
Well, as you can see, I am new to this forum; I hadn't checked into the poster's history, and believe me, I don't want to start a flame war with people who, yes, lived in Japan! So I guess the poster will have to defend himself/herself from now on. But I thought the question in this post was pretty straight forward. |
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G Cthulhu
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Posts: 1373
Location: Way, way off course.
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| Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 12:38 am Post subject: |
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| Company Calls wrote: |
| So instead of playing semantics, how about giving what you find to be the best in the areas you know? If more people throw in their ideas after that, it gives something to work with. |
No, it doesn't. All you have is dozens of opinions from people you've never met with tastes and standards you know nothing about. It's worthless.
And it's not playing semantics, it's called being a grown up and realizing that what you heard about what some guy called Timmy said in the playground is not really all that relevant. You may as well read graffiti written on a wall for all it's worth. If the *OP* can provide some context about what they are actually after (and a run down of the entire country is a bit unreasonable to expect everyone to jump to providing!) then people might be able to frame their replies. |
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cornishmuppet
Joined: 27 Mar 2004
Posts: 642
Location: Nagano, Japan
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| Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 1:16 am Post subject: |
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Judging by the guy's other posts he just wants a bunch of country information from people who have nothing better to do.
www.amazon.com Order a lonely planet. Read it. Problem solved. And if you're not that serious enough about coming to a country then why should we waste our time giving a run down on our prospective locations to someone who probably isn't going to ever come here?
To prove I'm not a complete scrouge, however -
Nagano - good nature. No nightlife. Hot/cold. 500 yen please! |
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