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Employers' "exit permission" and holidays
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Mr. Mead



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Location: West Midlands, UK

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:13 pm    Post subject: Employers' "exit permission" and holidays Reply with quote

Could someone please clarify a few items on travel and holidays for a Saudi newbie? I've found bits and pieces to my questions throughout other threads but need a few more details to make sure I've got it right. My apologies if these have already been addressed recently.

1) What is needed in order to leave the kingdom on holiday (summer, Eid, or otherwise)? From my understanding, even with the iqqama, we still need permission or some formal statement from our employer to show upon exiting. Is this always the case?

2) Are instructors allowed to leave the kingdom only during official holidays, or is it possible to take weekend trips to neighboring countries? And how about both Eids?

3) If after completing a one-year university contract I decide not to sign on for another year, is it possible that my employer would withhold the 60 days' summer holiday pay? While it is written into the contract, if Saudi employers are anything like Korean ones, it's not hard to imagine a scenario where such benefits are instantly made null and void when the employee makes clear his intention to leave. Has anyone had an experience of this sort in the KSA, or am I being overly cautious?

Any insight into these is greatly appreciated!
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To leave on holiday you'll need an exit-reentry visa, single or multiple.

If you have a one year contract then you will receive the appropriate holiday pay on termination if it is written in your contract.
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eclectic



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Mead has asked precisely the question I wouldve asked next (when typing I despise the use of the apostrophe, btw).

If I and my wife (when typing I love to type "I" first at times, as it sounds fresh, though impolite, at worst, though I wonder about its grammatical kerekniss) get the 1 year visa (she will just get a spouse visa), can we take short weekend or week-long trips to say Egypt or Addis Ababa or Damascus?
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eclectic wrote:

If I and my wife (when typing I love to type "I" first at times, as it sounds fresh, though impolite, at worst, though I wonder about its grammatical kerekniss)

Of course it is grammatically wrong and makes you sound like someone who never finished middle school... naturally not a person who should be in education.

VS
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Kipling



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Location: ...Ah Mrs K peel me a grape!!!....and have one yourself!!!!

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Electric
On these boards, under use of the apostrophe, always spells catastrophe.
(well not literally of course)
and like poor Miss Sarah Bing who was thrown by a bull because she could not read; You will be.............
Confirmed in your instinctive guess,
That Literature breeds distress.

personally hyphens and ie configurations always get me going. Sad Sad Sad
ps,not very fond of semi-colons either Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
However, EXCLAMATION MARKS ALWAYS MAKE ME SIT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Pikgitina



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...bulldozed? Laughing

Kipling, very amusing post as usual.
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Mr. Mead



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stephen Jones, thanks for the reply. Do you know off hand how much the multiple reentry visa costs? I recall reading in some thread that employers leave this additional cost with the employee.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

200 SR Single
500SR Multiple

That is for each visa so if you have a large family it can be quite expensive.
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rigel



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The big question is "will I have to leave a deposit with my employer when I go on one of these excursions, just in case I leave and forget to come back?"
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eclectic



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

**BIG THUMBS DOWN TO VEILED SENTIMENTS FOR HAVING NO SENSE OF HUMOR** (must mean "Jailed Sentiments"!!)

BIG THUMBS UP FOR KIPLING, AS HE/SHE QUICKLY GOT THE FEELING OF THE THING AND WENT WITH IT MAGNIFICENTLY. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eclectic wrote:
**BIG THUMBS DOWN TO VEILED SENTIMENTS FOR HAVING NO SENSE OF HUMOR** (must mean "Jailed Sentiments"!!)

BIG THUMBS UP FOR KIPLING, AS HE/SHE QUICKLY GOT THE FEELING OF THE THING AND WENT WITH IT MAGNIFICENTLY. Very Happy

You will find on this board that English teachers senses of humor do not reach to the most irritating grammatical pet peeves. (JohnSlat's is apostrophes... so watch out Cool )

"I and my friend" is as grating as "I been busy all week" or "I seen him yesterday"

Oh... All caps denotes screaming... why are you screaming? Temper tantrum? Laughing

VS
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Kipling



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Location: ...Ah Mrs K peel me a grape!!!....and have one yourself!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:59 pm    Post subject: Apostrophe Now Reply with quote

Mr Electric, don't you know that the thumbs down sign was only ever employed in the ARENA and this a FORUM!!!!!!!
Kindly Desist Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
VS is a valued and forthright member of the Forum ever ready to proffer advice to the huddled, bedraggled masses that are silently sitting in their darkened rooms thinking and thinking, forever thinking or reading,reading Virginia Wade or waiting, forever waiting for their visas to arrive from Saudi Arabia. Sound advice too and right about the apostrophe.
My humble advice Mr Electric is to make sure that you dot the Tees, cross the Eyes and try to think of New England.
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Apostrophe Now Reply with quote

Kipling wrote:
My humble advice Mr Electric is to make sure that you dot the Tees, cross the Eyes and try to think of New England.
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Hee hee... you crack me up Mr T...

VS
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eclectic



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VS wrote: "...You will find on this board that English teachers senses of humor do not reach to the most irritating grammatical pet peeves.."

..And that is a sign that perhaps having a "pet peeve" (as anglo-saxons so voluminously are afflicted with having) might not be such a healthy idea.

A bit of levity has seemed to help quite well in the past. Laughing
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eclectic



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VS also erroneously and presumptuously wrote:

"All caps denotes screaming"........

Who died and left your pompous smug behind in charge?

Oh, all-knowing anglos denote mental illness. Laughing

Kipling, my humble advice is you think very intently about fraudulent Oppenheimer funds. Cool
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