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eik
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 Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:02 am Post subject: Breaking a contract in my home country ? |
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What could happen if I break a contract, while not in China but still in my home country ? Suppose the employer has arranged a Z visa already, and made all kinds of arrangements ? Can I forget about ever getting a job in China again ?
(I am not intending to break any contract, but can imagine this happens once in a while to others.)  |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| I would think that although your employer has arranged a Z visa, you don't have it in your passport, so I would hope that it woulnd't matter. |
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LanGuTou
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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It is not uncommon for some teachers to receive the invitation letter from one institution, obtain the 'z' visa and then take a job at a different place of work.
It is a difficult situation to control other than asking the FT to put up a hefty deposit before the issue of the invitation letter. So, in answer to the OP's question, I think nothing would ever arise that would stop the FT working again in China. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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| LanGuTou wrote: |
It is a difficult situation to control other than asking the FT to put up a hefty deposit before the issue of the invitation letter.
It is not uncommon for some teachers to receive the invitation letter from one institution, obtain the 'z' visa and then take a job at a different place of work. . |
IS that because the invitation letter is expensive to get?
In theory, if a FT got a Z visa with X school, then went to work with Y school, wouldn't they need a release letter?
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LanGuTou
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| LanGuTou wrote: |
| It is a difficult situation to control other than asking the FT to put up a hefty deposit before the issue of the invitation letter. . |
IS that because the invitation letter is expensive to get? |
No, some employers get understandably angry when a FT makes a promise and a commitment to take a job and then takes up alternative employment.
Some expense arises from arranging the invitation letter but the main drawback is that it affects the recruitment process of the institution involved and wastes the time of the FAO. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| That's understandable. |
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evaforsure
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| Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 5:46 am Post subject: |
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| In theory, if a FT got a Z visa with X school, then went to work with Y school, wouldn't they need a release letter? |
You would think so but in fact.. applicants have been snagged in Beijing and never make it to the z issuing organization in a distant province...usually sensing that Beijing would be more to their liking than a smaller industrial city many start the process of finding a new employer...how the schools deal with the z being issued from another province I have no idea...this may be the reason that many orgs send a rep to Beijing to meet the applicants.. |
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Hansen
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| Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 7:08 am Post subject: |
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There was a lady from Australia who had made arrangements to come to work at the school I'm at. Her documents had all been processed. She then wrote me an email, after signing the contract and getting her ""Z" visa. She was married and said how she was looking forward to travelling around China with me.
It was all very nice except for two things: 1) I'm not interested in travelling around China with another man's wife. 2) The school did not want its FTs travelling around China.
I communicated as much to her via email. She then wrote the school, saying that she felt that I would not be a suitable colleague and had decided to not come. The FAO was disturbed, deeply. I told him she was a whack job and the school should be glad she wasn't coming. Of course, I also wrote her a letter encouraging her to come, in spite of her misgivings. The FAO looked over my shoulder as I wrote it.
The upshot was that the FAO told me that the PSB was also disturbed by these developments. It was his (or their) intent to put her on a list which would ban her from ever getting a "Z" visa to enter China.
I don't know what eventually happened. She never showed up at this school.
Point is that candidates should perform due diligence before signing papers regarding visa issues.
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suanlatudousi
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| Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 7:14 am Post subject: |
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| Hansen wrote: |
The school did not want its FTs travelling around China...
I told him she was a whack job and the school should be glad she wasn't coming. |
It's not the school's business what a foreign teaches does in his or her free time, including traveling in or out of China. Such a clause should clearly be written in the contract, so that potential employees can avoid this facility.
It's sad that you have decided to call someone a "whack job." You provided no evidence to support the unprofessionalism of name-calling.
People should know what school you represent so it can be avoided and be added to the school blacklist for such atrocious/childish behavior and conditions of employment. |
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