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CMurphy3639
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 Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:23 pm Post subject: Aclipse wants me in S. Korea, but I want Japan. Help? |
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I posted a topic earlier about another situation, but I felt like this was a separate issue which needed a second topic.
I was approached by Aclipse for a phone interview. However, the coordinator said she's recruiting currently for South Korea and I'm really only interested in Japan. Is there a tactful/right way to say my interest lies only in Japan and request that my application be kept around in case opportunities in Japan arose? |
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Glenski
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| Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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Tactful? You need to be direct but polite. Tact doesn't enter into it.
"I'm sorry, but I answered the ad because it talked about jobs in Japan. That is the only country I am interested in. I hope you will keep my resume on file for any openings there. Thank you for your interest in my credentials." |
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CMurphy3639
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| Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Understood. Thank you very much. |
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haopengyou
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I am currently applying for jobs in both countries - any country that will pay me significant $$ to take are of my loans  I have a suggestion. Recruiters have approached me about teaching in Korea starting in June or July. Most are not looking for teachers for the fall year (I believe begins the middle of August or Sept). Most of the recruiters for the Japanese schools have told me that they will not interview until sometime in May, and the job is for the fall (mid August or later). When does this recruiter want you to start? What if you told them (in response to the Korean offer) that you cannot start until mid August or September? That would make a June or July offer unacceptable without really saying "no" to the recruiter.
Just a thought |
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Sadebugo
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I don't even know if I coud be tactful. Working in Japan is such a better experience than working in Korea, it would be insulting to me if the recruiter were pushing me towards the latter. You can find a good job in Japan with a little persistence. Don't accept anything less!
Sadebugo
http://travldawrld.blogspot.com/ |
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CdnInKorea
Joined: 08 May 2008
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Location: The Land of the Morning Chaos (Korea)
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| Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Sadebugo wrote: |
| Working in Japan is such a better experience than working in Korea,... |
So everyone seems to say
Someday, I will find out for myself!  (specifically, when I finish my MA) |
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fat-elvis
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| Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Sadebugo wrote: |
| Working in Japan is such a better experience than working in Korea |
Why, exactly? I've read the same thing but I see almost as much negativity on this board as the Korea board. |
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rich45
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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| fat-elvis wrote: |
| Sadebugo wrote: |
| Working in Japan is such a better experience than working in Korea |
Why, exactly? I've read the same thing but I see almost as much negativity on this board as the Korea board. |
I've been mulling over this situation myself recently.
I have been working in Seoul for nearly 5 months now, and I have enjoyed it for the mostpart. I did lots of research beforehand and so I have no real issues at work...nice apartment, paid on time, easy to save half of my wage etc.
However, I spent a total of 7 months travelling around Japan a couple of years ago, and I've always maintained that I want to return there next year to teach. I simply loved the place...
Thesedays though, I'm beginning to wonder what the main differences are between the two countries, and whether these differences are worth sacrificing being able to save a lot of money each month.
My point is, after spending some time in both countries (although not working in Japan), that Korea doesn't seem to be much different from Japan if (and it's a big if) you can find a trustworthy employer.
I've still got 7 months to decide though....... |
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Suwon23
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Japan is a little cleaner, a lot more polite by Western standards, less densely populated with crooked employers, etc. But still it does seem that some people have an irrational preference for Japan. When I told my friends I was moving there, they all wanted to visit me. When I went to Korea, nobody wanted to. What the? Why do some people have such a bias? Is it the influence of Anime and other Japanese culture in America? Is it because people think about the Korean War when they think Korea? What gives? |
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Sadebugo
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| Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 11:16 am Post subject: |
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| fat-elvis wrote: |
| Sadebugo wrote: |
| Working in Japan is such a better experience than working in Korea |
Why, exactly? I've read the same thing but I see almost as much negativity on this board as the Korea board. |
Well, the main problems I had with Korea were the unethical employers and overt racism. In Japan, I didn't experience either. Maybe I was lucky. Also, in Japan, there was just so much more to do. If you work in Seoul, this disparity may not be as obvious. But, if you work in the rest of Korea, it's like night and day. I can't understand how anyone could prefer Korea to Japan but to each his own, I guess.
Sadebugo
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fat-elvis
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| Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Sadebugo wrote: |
| I can't understand how anyone could prefer Korea to Japan but to each his own, I guess. |
Well, aside from the money, especially if you can work in Seoul I suppose. But I see what you mean. |
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jerkytheturkey
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| Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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I'm in the same predicament.
I applied to Aclipse a few weeks ago explaining that I was eager to work in Japan. The response I received was for jobs in Korea.
Because of the current economic crisis I wasn't sure whether I should just go for the Job in Korea, and use it as a back-up if Japan isn't possible. At present I have an interview coming up for Aeon, and i'm waiting to hear back from a few other places. I think I may take Glenski's advice as I really have my mind set on Japan. |
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cornishmuppet
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| Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 1:15 am Post subject: |
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| Long, long ago, before I came to Japan, I posted my resume on this board, asking specifically for jobs in Japan. I got a whole host of offers from Korea (and Taiwan), but nothing from Japan. I just ignored them, and eventually something came up. Not sure if they're still so desperate, but it was pretty heartening at the time for a guy with less than a year's experience to be 'desired' by so many schools. |
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fat_chris
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Location: Beijing
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| Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 3:18 am Post subject: |
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| cornishmuppet wrote: |
| Long, long ago, before I came to Japan, I posted my resume on this board, asking specifically for jobs in Japan. I got a whole host of offers from Korea (and Taiwan), but nothing from Japan. |
It's interesting that we are seeing the other side of the coin now; that is, many employers often complain when they ask for certain qualifications from applicants but people without those qualifications still apply for a listed position. It's ironic that some employers would likewise ignore a candidate's preferences for positions requested. Hmm...
Best of luck to everyone in their job searches.
I have been wondering the same: very generally speaking, many say that Japan is "better" than Korea, but I would be eager to hear more on why this could be the case, even though the Japan vs. Korea topic seems to have been "done to death." No matter, I am personally always interested in hearing more insights, anecdotes, and perspectives about this.
***I am currently a 2nd year ALT on the JET Programme in Japan and I have thoroughly enjoyed both my professional and personal experiences here thus far.
Myoneandahalfyensworth.
Regards,
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Sadebugo
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| Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 11:07 am Post subject: |
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"I have been wondering the same: very generally speaking, many say that Japan is "better" than Korea, but I would be eager to hear more on why this could be the case, even though the Japan vs. Korea topic seems to have been "done to death." No matter, I am personally always interested in hearing more insights, anecdotes, and perspectives about this."
Yes, this topic has been done to death and many have conveyed their personal experiences in both countries. Those who like Korea more than Japan may feel that way because of the money or having met their spouse there. Who knows? For quality of life though, it's Japan hands down.
Sadebugo
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