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Lukeukwalker
Joined: 02 Jun 2009 Posts: 9
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 11:34 pm Post subject: I hold a BSc rather than a BA, is this an issue? |
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I have recently finished university in the UK. I am expecting a 2.i in sport and exercise science. The level of English expected was of a high standard. At the moment I don't have any TEFL or TESOL qualifications but I am considering completing one, most likely being the CELTA or Trinity. I have three years experience working with foreign children acting as an activity leader for one of the UKs leading summer schools.
My question is will I be overlooked because i hold a BSc rather than a BA and if so will obtaining a CELTA or Trinity prevent this?
Thanks all
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JGC458
Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 248 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:09 am Post subject: |
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You could have a degree in surfing/chewing gum/anti-communist studies and it wouldn't make a difference to most/nearly all(?) schools. As far as I can tell, all they care about is that you have a degree of some sort.
Having some sort of TEFL certification won't help re the BA/BSc issue, coz, as stated, there is no such issue - but it will help you get a legal job and you'll be able to choose from a wider choice of offers.
You having some teaching/monitoring experience also helps. |
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Sef
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 74 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:35 am Post subject: |
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I've got a BSc and got a job teaching in China straight after uni, with no teaching qualifications whatsoever.
I've now got CELTA and a couple of years experience (not counting that initial stint in China) and I've just been offered a job in Shenzhen.
Your degree subject really isn't an issue. |
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LanGuTou
Joined: 23 Mar 2009 Posts: 621 Location: Shandong
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:38 am Post subject: |
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In most cases, the FAO at an institution in China would not know or care about the difference between a BSc. and BA degree. A copy of the certificate or diploma is all that they care about as it is a legal prerequisite for obtaining a work visa.
As for the teaching certificate, it can be an advantage but is, by no means, a necessity. Just do not expect it to make much difference to your salary! |
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Jayray
Joined: 28 Feb 2009 Posts: 373 Location: Back East
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:40 am Post subject: |
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I'll agree that the BA/BSc isn't an issue for being accepted at a school. I observed a teacher who had only an TESOL certificate (or something like that) who was working at a private school. He was an excellent teacher, and possibly among the best TEFL teachers I've ever seen.
I met a Ph.D whose expertise was chemistry. He was Swedish. His command and ability to teach the English language was wonderful.
What matters is that you command good wages (you can determine that for yourself) and that you muster your knowledge of the English language, bring it into the Chinese class room, and do a good job.
Be confident.
Good luck to you. |
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evaforsure

Joined: 26 Jun 2004 Posts: 1217
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:51 am Post subject: |
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In most cases, the FAO at an institution in China would not know or care about the difference between a BSc. and BA degree. A copy of the certificate or diploma is all that they care about as it is a legal prerequisite for obtaining a work visa. |
Last year .. in my office at least .. they have requested official translations of the sheepskin..good luck... |
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JGC458
Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 248 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:27 am Post subject: |
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evaforsure wrote: |
Last year .. in my office at least .. they have requested official translations of the sheepskin..good luck... |
I don't doubt it, but "the exception proves the rule" as they say...
Lukeukwalker, in all likelihood you won't have a problem because you hold a BSc |
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The Great Wall of Whiner

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 4946 Location: Blabbing
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:09 am Post subject: |
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You're ok. Like another poster said, even if it is a degree in gum-chewing or skipping or juggling, you'll be fine. |
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Lukeukwalker
Joined: 02 Jun 2009 Posts: 9
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Thanks everyone for clearing that up. Just have to wait to receive my degree documents and I can begin applying. Thanks again for all your help.
Luke |
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calgrl471
Joined: 13 May 2009 Posts: 36
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:46 am Post subject: |
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same thing... no problems |
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foreignDevil
Joined: 23 Jun 2003 Posts: 580
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:48 am Post subject: |
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The Great Wall of Whiner wrote: |
You're ok. Like another poster said, even if it is a degree in gum-chewing or skipping or juggling, you'll be fine. |
I'll have you know I worked really hard for my gum-chewing degree. Was that a personal attack? I will report you to Mr. Kalgukshi.  |
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