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acornrevolution
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 Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:57 am Post subject: Lincoln School/Krakow |
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I recently had a Skype interview with Lincoln School is Krakow. It went fine and seemed to be a good school. He mentioned the salary was 50zl per hour (each class being 60 minutes), with full time being 18-20 contact hours. My math puts this at about 3600-4000zl per month. Is this enough to live comfortably? Rent, food, and joining a gym or dojo? What are typical apartment rates in Krakow? I was quoted 1300zl. And sizes?
Just wondering if there will be any substantial to save and / or transfer back to the States.
Thanks!
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Mojoski
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| Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: Lincoln School/Krakow |
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| acornrevolution wrote: |
I recently had a Skype interview with Lincoln School is Krakow. It went fine and seemed to be a good school. He mentioned the salary was 50zl per hour (each class being 60 minutes), with full time being 18-20 contact hours. My math puts this at about 3600-4000zl per month. Is this enough to live comfortably? Rent, food, and joining a gym or dojo? What are typical apartment rates in Krakow? I was quoted 1300zl. And sizes?
Just wondering if there will be any substantial to save and / or transfer back to the States.
Thanks!
Anthony |
Sounds okay, Anthony. Pay is fine for Krakow. Tends to be less than Warsaw because Krakow is a preferred destination. Low contact hours is quite all right because you should be able to get a number of privates. For those, you should get a minimum of 60Z per hour tax free. After taxes 3600-4000 is basic survival in Krakow, so you'd need at least 2 or 3 privates a week to be comfortable and have fun.
1300 is a realistic figure. Middle of the range for Krakow by Polish standards. Space is generally at a premium in Poland, especially in large cities. I had a 30m flat in Warsaw for 1000. It was a pre-soviet building, so it was roomier than the typical later block. One nice sized room and a rare nice sized kitchen.
Krakow is arguably the most beautiful city in Poland, and job openings are scarce there. Few people would turn down such an offer. Good luck. |
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acornrevolution
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| Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 2:25 am Post subject: |
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| OK. So how easy is it to get privates around Krakow? Is it legal? Here in South Korea, they are illegal for most teachers. |
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Mojoski
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| Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 2:52 am Post subject: |
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| acornrevolution wrote: |
| OK. So how easy is it to get privates around Krakow? Is it legal? Here in South Korea, they are illegal for most teachers. |
Wow, I had no idea you couldn't do privates in Korea!  I'm thinking about going there, too. Have to figure that into the decision.
When I lived in Warsaw, some students at school asked me, colleagues handed off students they couldn't accomodate, friends of friends...my landlord even asked me to take on his friend. I tried to avoid privates, but if you want them, I suppose hitting the bulletin boards at the local universities would do it. |
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acornrevolution
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| Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 7:13 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info!
Just because they are illegal in Korea doesn't mean people don't have them  . It's just that the salary is high enough that you don't need them. I've avoided privates...because i enjoy my free time, but it seems important in Poland.
Right now, I'm deciding between 6 more months in Korea, 1 yr in Japan, or 1 yr in Poland. |
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katers
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| Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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Hey there
I work at Lincoln school and am (possibly) gonna be working there from September too. It's a nice school to work for and the pay is average for Krakow. It's easily enough to pay rent and bills. 1300zl would get you a pretty nice studio in the city centre! Most places are cheaper than that, especially if you get a flatshare.
Getting private lessons here is incredibly easy (gumtree website) and you can charge like 60zl per hour.
If you have any more questions about Krakow or Lincoln feel free to IM me.
Katy x |
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katers
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| Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| oh.....and to answer your question about saving up money to take back home... i guess it's possible to save some money with your salary here, but don't forget that the zloty is worth absolutely nothing outside of poland! |
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Harry from NWE
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| Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 11:58 am Post subject: |
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| katers wrote: |
| don't forget that the zloty is worth absolutely nothing outside of poland! |
What a strange thing to say. |
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katers
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| Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| eh? |
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simon_porter00
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 5:37 am Post subject: |
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I think Harry's recent ticking off somewhat diluted his messge
Pound Sterling 1 GBP = 5,0447 (against the złoty yesterday)
Average teachers salary in Warsaw/Krak�w 4000zł p/m (teaching 25 hours). = 792GBP
Minimum wage 5.73 GBP (if you're over 22) x 25 hours = 573 GBP p/m
So, in short, you earn more in Poland for the same amount of work than on the the minimum wage in the UK. Therefore, to suggest that the złoty is worthless is utter nonsense. I'm grossing 2-3 times as much as a teacher in Poland than I ever did in the UK - it's not worthless to me, in fact it'll help me pay off my mortgage in just under 3 years. |
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Harry from NWE
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 9:20 am Post subject: |
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| simon_porter00 wrote: |
| I think Harry's recent ticking off somewhat diluted his messge |
No, it's just that Katers isn't a complete and utter prat.
I was commenting on what she said because in Warsaw the going rate for teaching is about �15 per hour (with 19% tax). In England the going rate at ESL schools is about the same or even a bit less and tax is higher. |
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Mojoski
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My first two years in Wawa, on pracy, paying ZUS, I saved less than 3000Z. The last year and a half, I was on hourly with umowa o dzielo autorska (9.5%), and I was a rich man in Poland. The last year and a half, I saved about 20,000Z. A tidy little bundle, but places like Japan, Korea, Taiwan and Oman you can put away $1000 a month USD. Hong Kong (NET pgm), KSA, UAE over $2000. (I'd never live in KSA, but UAE and Oman I think are fine).
So basically, I think Katers' point is that when you pile up all those Z's and take them to the US or UK, they don't buy you much. I had about $8000 USD to show for 3.5 years. A lot of piwo in Poland, but no fortune in US. It was quite fine for me there at that time, just enjoying Poland, but now I have to target the more lucrative countries.  |
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katers
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| Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 9:53 am Post subject: |
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| Mojoski wrote: |
when you pile up all those Z's and take them to the US or UK, they don't buy you much. |
Indeed. I'm thinking of the time I spent two months cooking food and being a social recluse so that I could afford to go to Vienna for a weekend. I spent half a month's salary in three days there. Yes, I was visiting museums and so on but I was staying with a friend and therefore not paying for accommodation.... it was a bit of a shock to the system!
Yes, an ESL teacher's salary in London is around �15 per hour, which is crap, given a) the cost of living in London, b) the extra time spent planning lessons and marking, and c) the comparatively high salaries of university teachers and even school teachers.
The salary is about the same in Krakow, which is better. However, rent prices are not particularly low here. I pay 1000zl per month, which is more than a quarter of my full time monthly wage. Goodness knows where the other 3000zl go... eating out, socialising (beer isn't that cheap y'know), the odd weekend away to the eurozone gets rid of plenty of zlotys....
I guess you could save something here if you put your mind to it.
And Harry:
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| No, it's just that Katers isn't a complete and utter prat. |
Thanks [/quote] |
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