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Eric Carlson
Joined: 06 Jul 2009 Posts: 6
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:37 am Post subject: What to look for in a good contract |
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Here is the outline of what to look for in a good job in the Middle East � and what a good employer will provide for you.
In the beginning look for a company that demands a police clearance certificate and attestation of your educational certificates. I know it�s a nuisance doing all the paperwork, and you�re not a criminal, but what if the guy you have to share a flat with turns out to have a history of violence? The police in Gulf countries will not intervene in a dispute between Westerners. A bad company will not help you. You flat-mate or neighbour could physically attack you, or worse, and there would be nobody willing to help you, or even listen to your story.
What if your �professional colleagues� have mostly dodgy certificates from the University of Life? If your employer doesn�t check, this will be the case. That means if you know what you�re doing, then you will be doing the lion�s share of the work, as your colleagues will not be competent. You may also find that your managers are not only unqualified as teachers, but additionally are untrained in management.
You should receive an open return ticket to your destination in your own name. If not, why not? Don�t accept a different offer. If you arrive at a location and �your accommodation isn�t quite ready� or they have �decided to move you to a different location� then use the ticket in your hand and get straight back on the plane. Things will go from bad to worse. Make sure you can return to your point of origin. Imagine arriving in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait or Oman with only a one way ticket. Your accommodation turns out to be a cockroach infested dive, with broken air conditioning. The temperature inside is 40 degrees C plus. What will you do? Don�t laugh and think it can�t happen. It can and it does.
Never, ever, part with your passport. It may be the last you see of it. Without your passport you are a prisoner in a foreign country. No good employer will take your passport. If a visa is needed, then go yourself with the company representative to obtain it.
If the accommodation is going to be great, then ask for some pictures. If your employer can�t send you a picture of your accommodation, then why not? Something is wrong. It�s not a big deal to take a digital photo and e mail it to you. A good contract will list exactly what will be in your accommodation. This should include a television, fridge, washing machine, bed, dry cleaned or new bedding, sofa and armchairs, and cooker with stove, amongst other things.
Look at the contract. It should be several pages long and very detailed. If it is just a couple of paragraphs typed up in Word last night, don�t accept it. It would be meaningless in legal terms. If your potential employer can�t be bothered to give you a real contract, how do you think they will treat you when you arrive? With great respect? Or with disdain and irritation at having to communicate with such a contemptible nuisance?
Hope this helps a bit. Be careful. Good luck.  |
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Citizenkane
Joined: 14 Jun 2009 Posts: 234 Location: Xanadu
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:21 am Post subject: |
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In the beginning look for a company that demands a police clearance certificate and attestation of your educational certificates. |
These requirements are set by the embassy, not the employer. I think all embassies require your degrees to be attested but not all require police clearance. I think few people would like to add to the list of hoops to jump through to get a Saudi visa.
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You should receive an open return ticket to your destination in your own name. If not, why not? Don�t accept a different offer. |
Then you'll be accepting no offer at all because as far as I know, no employers (at least in KSA) will give a new hire an open return ticket.
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No good employer will take your passport. If a visa is needed, then go yourself with the company representative to obtain it. |
Actually, at least in KSA employers are legally obliged to hold your passport. Not all employers do this, but many 'good employers' do. Also, you cannot get a visa without the approval of your supervisor - not matter how 'good' the employer. You need to be a bit mroe realistic in your demands.
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If your employer can�t send you a picture of your accommodation, then why not? Something is wrong. It�s not a big deal to take a digital photo and e mail it to you. |
I wonder if you've ever actually worked in the Gulf? It may not be a 'big deal' to send you a photo, but anyone who's worked here knows that employes are seldom concerned enough or organised enough to bother with such things. If you can't deal with this sort of attitude, you're proably better off not coming here.
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Hope this helps a bit. |
Well, I appreciate your efforts but I think your demands are a bit unrealistic. I think potential employees would be better off making sure that their contract is clear regarding pay, bonuses, time off, etc. |
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Stephen Jones
Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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The thing about pictures of your accommodation is that the accommodation may end up looking like nothing in the picture.
At JIC we had an handbook with photos of people's flats, but it was only when I was threatened with physical violence for deception that I found out the Royal Commission was putting single people up in different, and frankly unsatisfactory accommodation.
The passport point is clear for Saudi; employers are supposed to keep it. But even in other Gulf states they will need it to fix visas and so on.
I've never heard of a single employer in the Gulf giving an open return ticket. Make sure you've got enough cash or credit spare to buy one if you need one.
Contracts in English may well have no validity. You need to get the Arabic version translated. Don't trust the employer; I remember finding out when I went to the Teachers' Union in Kuwait that the Arabic version and the English version of the contract differed in various significant details.
If you're worried about being attacked by lunatic colleagues don't come to the Middle East; in fact don't take up TEFL. Lunatic colleagues are an occupational hazard. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: What to look for in a good contract |
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I also feel that our OP is rather unrealistic. I always worked for the top of the line employers... those with the best pay and the best reputations in the Gulf. Here is my take on the demands listed. SJ and CK have covered the situation in Saudi, so I will be referring to the rest of the Gulf that I am more familiar with...
Eric Carlson wrote: |
In the beginning look for a company that demands a police clearance certificate and attestation of your educational certificates. I know it�s a nuisance doing all the paperwork, and you�re not a criminal, but what if the guy you have to share a flat with turns out to have a history of violence? The police in Gulf countries will not intervene in a dispute between Westerners. A bad company will not help you. You flat-mate or neighbour could physically attack you, or worse, and there would be nobody willing to help you, or even listen to your story. |
I have never provided a "police clearance certificate" in any country in the Middle East where I worked - Egypt, Oman, Kuwait, the UAE. As far as I know, the Gulf countries do a security check and teachers have been turned down because of its results. But this is done by the government, not the employer. And, most importantly, it will not guarantee that a sufficient supply of nutters not get in. You can be plenty crazy and even borderline dangerous without having a police record.
Eric Carlson wrote: |
What if your �professional colleagues� have mostly dodgy certificates from the University of Life? If your employer doesn�t check, this will be the case. That means if you know what you�re doing, then you will be doing the lion�s share of the work, as your colleagues will not be competent. You may also find that your managers are not only unqualified as teachers, but additionally are untrained in management. |
Of course, the problem here is that the system that most of the Gulf uses guarantees nothing as far as validity of education. It is a system of providing income to government departments in exchange for stamps and ribbons and signatures. The only guarantee, which just a few employers are sensible enough to use, is to require transcripts directly from universities attended. That said, one of the best teachers that I ever worked with was found to have bogus certificates... so academic credentials are no guarantee of either good or sensible teachers.
Eric Carlson wrote: |
You should receive an open return ticket to your destination in your own name. If not, why not? |
Highly unlikely and why should they?
Eric Carlson wrote: |
Never, ever, part with your passport. It may be the last you see of it. Without your passport you are a prisoner in a foreign country. No good employer will take your passport. If a visa is needed, then go yourself with the company representative to obtain it. |
Ridiculous... sorry, but how are they going to get your work/residence visa without your passport. It HAS to go to the Ministry. Every single employer in the Middle East will and must take your passport for a procedure which can take a few days to a couple months - depends on the snail-like speed of the Ministry. The variation is once you get it back. In Saudi, most employers keep it and they always have. You need it and an exit visa to get out. In Oman, government employers don't keep them, but private employers do. Mine was not held by one employer and held by the second... and it was absolutely no problem at all. If I wanted to head out to the UAE for the weekend, I'd ask for it and they would go to the safe and give it to me. In Kuwait, you get your passport back, but if you work for the university, you need an exit visa to leave. In Qatar, you also need an exit visa to leave. So... you can't make this generalized demand.
Eric Carlson wrote: |
If the accommodation is going to be great, then ask for some pictures. If your employer can�t send you a picture of your accommodation, then why not? Something is wrong. It�s not a big deal to take a digital photo and e mail it to you. A good contract will list exactly what will be in your accommodation. This should include a television, fridge, washing machine, bed, dry cleaned or new bedding, sofa and armchairs, and cooker with stove, amongst other things. |
Pretty unrealistic... for usually obvious reasons. The employers who have pictures on their websites are those that have all their housing on their campus... very rare. Other than that, I have never heard of employers providing photos because they often have a large inventory of flats and who will get which? Some give a furniture allowance and some provide furnished flats. It is very rare that they provide a washing machine and I have never heard of an employer providing a television (maybe AUS??). And I repeat... I only worked for the top of the line employers.
Eric Carlson wrote: |
Look at the contract. It should be several pages long and very detailed. If it is just a couple of paragraphs typed up in Word last night, don�t accept it. It would be meaningless in legal terms. If your potential employer can�t be bothered to give you a real contract, how do you think they will treat you when you arrive? With great respect? Or with disdain and irritation at having to communicate with such a contemptible nuisance? |
I will have to admit here that I took all of my jobs and arrived in the countries without ever seeing a contract. Nor did I ever have the Arabic translated to check. But... again... I only worked for the top of the line employers. Besides, the fact is that the employers can pretty much do as they wish anyway. You are the one who must follow the contract.
Better advice is to check out employers on this board. It is usually obvious which ones are the dependable ones and which are the bottom feeders - who will ignore any fancy contract that they give you anyway. If no one has heard of the place or it is the first year, you will probably want to avoid it. Oh... and if your credentials are slim... if you only have a BA + a TEFL cert + a couple years teaching in language school in Asia... you can only get hired by the bottom feeders. You can only expect to get the best of the worst if you want to come to the Gulf. Eventually, you can move up, but that usually requires a related MA.
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15yearsinQ8
Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 462 Location: kuwait
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:46 am Post subject: |
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the original poster must be posting from utopeia.
certainly not the gulf.
it reminds me of the 'perfect' marriage contract or prenuptial agreement.
maybe the poster is a newly graduated lawyer......
to paraphrase ronald reagan, 'trust (but keep the escape hatch open)' |
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helenl
Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 1202
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:36 am Post subject: |
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It is SOP in UAE and Qatar to provide a police clearance certificate from your current country of residence now. HCT and Qatari employers require this before you even arrive.
Your passport will be taken in ALL gulf countries for about 2 - 3 weeks while your Residency/work permit is inserted, it is then returned to you.
HCT has such a wide variety of housing that it would be impossible to send any pictures that you would be assured that that would be your accomodation.
OP has never worked in the GCC. |
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