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Giving Notice for Resignation

 
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Camel Stick



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:34 am    Post subject: Giving Notice for Resignation Reply with quote

According to my contract I must give 3 months notice if I wish to resign. I've heard that, according to the labour law, annual leave cannot count towards the period of notice. That is, if I gave notice one month before going on leave I would have to return after the leave and complete an additional 2 months of work in order to fulfil my obligation to my employer. Is this correct?
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adorabilly



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CS.

Most of the contracts I have seen have a clause in them that states "the notice must coincide with the end of the academic semester." (paraphrasing) and you aren't able to give notice and then have the summer months count for part of that notice.

That way you have to finish up the academic semester in order to get your end of term package.

So if you give notice NOW, you would have to finish up the fall semseter in many cases.

That is MHO. I would ask your HR folks dirctly.
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D. Merit



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's how I understand it too, adorabilly.

There is a very small window for resignation.
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jdl



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ever thought of collecting all your monies, then quiting? Or can you not collect your money without a resignation letter?

As it is said in boxing, 'protect yourself at all times'. Never put yourself at the mercy of your employer to your own disadvantage. Get whatever money you can in hand before your 'tip your hand'.

What is the worst that could happen if you collected all your money then just resigned over the summer from out of country for family emergency etc?


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adorabilly



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jdl.

there are several reasons NOT do just grab your cash and run.
1. If the OP wants to move to another job in the country that would definately get them a working ban.
2. if they live in one of the other gcc countries it could cause them difficulties
3. if they have outstanding debts and do a "midnight run" and are caught it is jail time.
4. they could have a nice gratuity coming (one full contract of three years is 3 months salary) and you don't get that unless you give the proper notice.
5. or if they are a relatively new teacher, if they bolt w/out proper notice how can you use it on a CV to get another job?
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jdl



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah I see. Thank you. I guess it hinges on the intentions/plans of the OP. Number 4 in your list is a great motivator for compliance.

So, Camel Stick, it seems your plans for next year will greatly influence your manner of resignation.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walk, don't run! I've only had (thankfully!) one employer that made me fantasize about the idea. But, really, I think that by "pulling a runner", you are only lowering yourself down to the level of the employer who is causing you such distress. Wink

And, don't think, in case you are new at this game. that it won't get back and around. I've repeatedly run into former colleagues (some of them, "colleagues"), employers, and former acquaintances of mine. Shocked

In one memorable moment, one present colleague mentioned (for whatever reason) my name at dinnertime to only have two people within earshot remark that they'd worked with me in the past...both on either side of the world. Nothing negative, of course, as I have always left at my choice and always in good standing. That's how I have remain employed lo these many years. And, I don't trash-talk my employers, who wouldn't have deserved it anyway...'cept that one lonesome example. Very Happy

It's a small, small, small world this EFL world that we live in...

NCTBA
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Iamherebecause



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've heard that, according to the labour law, annual leave cannot count towards the period of notice.


Depends what sort of leave you have. If you have a certain number of days and you are allowed to choose when you take them then normally the employer looks at the date you want to leave, confirms how much of the leave you have left you have earned, and if you don't manage to take it all it's tough luck.

If you are in education it also depends on how understanding your employer is. For example at UAEU most Academic staff have to give 6 months notice and they are not allowed to leave during a semester (on pain of loss of part of the gratuity). So you have to resign in February if you want to leave at the end of the academic year - and that usually means you have to resign before you have the next job in hand. But then most contracts here are interpreted to favour the employer rather than to protect the employee.
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Camel Stick



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to all for your input. Actually, i wasn't thinking of doing a runner - just trying to confirm how much notice to give! i don't work at a uni or college so contract is fairly straightforward, ie i should give 3 months notice prior to leaving. Of course, I'm hoping my employer will allow me to leave earlier than that - without any penalties - but i think i may have to stick it out. I don't have the constitution for doing a midnight run (can't find an emoticon that expresses that!)
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helenl



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Camel Stick is onto something - perhaps someone has seen an emoticon with a sickly greenish tinge (and perhaps a finger to tightly held together lips) out there?

It would be extremely useful for discussing things that make each of us feel faintly nauseous Wink
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