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Visa Cancellation Query

 
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Camel Stick



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:22 am    Post subject: Visa Cancellation Query Reply with quote

I'm almost half-way through a 2-year contract and am contemplating resigning. I have been told that, if I were to resign, I would have to submit my passport to immigration in order to process the cancellation of my visa. My question is: why is it necessaary to do this? I have no intention of returning to the UAE for either work or pleasure.
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GlobalDawg



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My question is: why is it necessaary to do this? I have no intention of returning to the UAE for either work or pleasure.


For the very reason you mentioned:
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I would have to submit my passport to immigration in order to process the cancellation of my visa.


In order to cancel your visa, you must verify that you do not have any debts. Regardless of you intention not to return to the UAE, you will have to collect bank, telephone and utility verifications indicating that you have cleared all your debts. It is a requirement of the visa cancellation process.
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Camel Stick



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose my question is: why bother having your visa cancelled? Why not just leave the country without cancelling it? Are you suggesting that trying to leave the country with a one-way ticket invites suspicion that you have unpaid debts?
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audi321



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They will not know if you have booked a single or return ticket. You can leave without cancelling your residence as it will automatically get cancelled if you are out of the country for 6 months so if you are 100% sure of not returning, don't bother with cancelling.
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Zoot



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you book a one-way ticket out of the UAE when you have a current residency visa?
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MrScaramanga



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't cancelling your residency visa required to get your gratuity payment?
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Camel Stick wrote:
I suppose my question is: why bother having your visa cancelled? Why not just leave the country without cancelling it? Are you suggesting that trying to leave the country with a one-way ticket invites suspicion that you have unpaid debts?

Another reason why they want the visa canceled is because generally the employers are assigned X number of work visas by the government. This gives them the required permission to hire expats. If you just leave, in effect, they are unable to replace you unless they have extra hiring capacity. (not used their approved numbers) They will probably have to jump through hoops to get another employee visa before the six month expiration.

It is a good question from zoot as to whether they will let you out on a one-way ticket... with an open work visa.

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GlobalDawg



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Camel Stick wrote:
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Are you suggesting that trying to leave the country with a one-way ticket invites suspicion that you have unpaid debts?
No, I'm not suggesting it, but it might--now that you raise the point.

audi321 wrote:
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They will not know if you have booked a single or return ticket.
Isn't the ticket and passport checked when one goes through immigration?

Zoot wrote:
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Can you book a one-way ticket out of the UAE when you have a current residency visa?
Good question! It seems to me that this information would come up on the immigration database as you process departure in the airport. However, as I recall, a friend left Saudi without canceling his visa and had no problem departing with a one-way ticket.

MrS wrote:
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Isn't cancelling your residency visa required to get your gratuity payment?
Yes, it is. But, it appears that the OP isn't interested in the gratuity payment since s/he is only half-way through a two year contract and is considering resigning.
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helenl



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The one way ticket component is moot as you can cancel the return portion of a return ticket (less penalties) and get some if not nearly all the second half of the money returned. However, if you're "parsimonious" and doing a runner, perhaps the one way ticket (or the unrefundable return ticket) are the only options you're considering

Another point, have they given you any furniture or luggage allowances to be considered paid in full on completion of your contract. HCT pro rates them over 3 years, if you leave before your contract is up, they claw that money back - in effect you are absconding with unpaid debts if you "just leave". A formal case can be filed with the police and IF you should ever have a stop over (either planned or unplanned) in the Emirates you could be arrested.
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audi321



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No one checks your tickets anymore because it's all e-tickets these days. You simply go to the check in counter, hand in the reference number and they print the boarding card. Then you go to the immigration, give them your boarding card and passport and that's it. No one knows that you have bought a single ticket or a return ticket to fly out. Although it may be worth knowing that return tickets are usually cheaper than single tickets on most airlines. I know Qatar airways offers reasonably priced single tickets but i am not too sure of other airlines doing the same.

No one will know when you leave that you do not intend on coming back. If you don't plan on coming back then there is nothing they can do to bring you back.
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Zoot



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What you're saying sounds plausible audi, but the reality is quite different I think. A one-way ticket on a current residency visa in these times would cause suspicion and questions. If the OP is not leaving debts behind, why the issue about cancelling the visa anyway? The point made about the staffing issue is a valid one for employers.


When a passport has to be renewed because it's been lost, is the replacement tagged with the information relating to the lost one? And now I'm referring to the retinal scan. Those who've registered for their national ID, is it used when you pass through immigration control?[/code]
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