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TEFL: A professional career?

 
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brevel_monkey



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:54 pm    Post subject: TEFL: A professional career? Reply with quote

Hi all,

I used to teach English in China during my gap year. I've been planning to go back there after I graduate this summer and start a professional career in TEFL.

I have a wealth of questions I want to ask: but firsts first! Is TEFL a good career these days? I'm pretty ambitious, maybe not in that I want to earn lots of money, but I do want to feel successful in ten years time!

If you are someone that considers themself a professional TEFL teacher who's in it for the long run, would you reccomend the path to others?

What kind of oppertunities does being a TEFL teacher present?
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, can be, but you won't get rich, but you can live pretty well. get an MA, DELTA, or teaching license and that will help.

You could teach in intl schools with a license, the MA or DELTA coudl get you into the Middle East or teacher training. Don't forget about management, liks ADOS or DOS
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Glenski



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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:10 pm    Post subject: Re: TEFL: A professional career? Reply with quote

brevel_monkey wrote:
If you are someone that considers themself a professional TEFL teacher who's in it for the long run, would you reccomend the path to others?
Depends on where one wants to work, and what your goals are.

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What kind of oppertunities[sic] does being a TEFL teacher present?
Mainstream school teacher, including international school.
Conversation school instructor or manager.
Your own business, perhaps even in combination with proofreading/editing.
University/college/junior college/tech school teacher.
Business English instructor.
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Shelly123



Joined: 26 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Glenski - you could go into management, editing, translation...I think it's up to the individual and their creativity. Many teachers I know get stuck in a rut - they refuse to change their material, teaching style and for them, teaching has become a chain around their necks. They don't have the ambition to look five years into the future and think where they want to be and how to get there.

And successful...what does that mean to you? For me, it meant I could teach for six months, then take a few months off to do other things. It gave me flexibility. Not alot of money...but time. For me, that made me happy and justified other aspects of the job.
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good list, Glenski.

I'd add teacher trainer to it.

In addition to teaching, I do teacher training at entry level and beyond. Presents some great career opportunities.


Best,
Justin
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS- It matters a lot what you mean by professional career.

There are a lot of opportunities in EFL, but are they the opportunities YOU are going to be happy with?

For me:

Decent salary and benefits now, though I didn't have them in my first years teaching

Have lived and worked on all inhabited continents but one. Plans for that one are in the works.

Have really seen a lot of countries, not just vacationed in them.

Learned quite a bit of quite a few languages

Work that I enjoy on most days

and

work that I feel is worth doing for me and for others



all add up to a GREAT professional career. BUt it's taken a LOT of long days to get here!


Best,
Justin
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Sashadroogie



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:24 pm    Post subject: Re: TEFL: A professional career? Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
brevel_monkey wrote:
If you are someone that considers themself a professional TEFL teacher who's in it for the long run, would you reccomend the path to others?
Depends on where one wants to work, and what your goals are.

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What kind of oppertunities[sic] does being a TEFL teacher present?
Mainstream school teacher, including international school.
Conversation school instructor or manager.
Your own business, perhaps even in combination with proofreading/editing.
University/college/junior college/tech school teacher.
Business English instructor.


Materials development is a good one too, but it's not so easy to get into publishing. My tuppenceworth...
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mozzar



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long do you estimate it takes to start a reasonably decent career?
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mozzar wrote:
How long do you estimate it takes to start a reasonably decent career?
5-10 years
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
mozzar wrote:
How long do you estimate it takes to start a reasonably decent career?
5-10 years


Give or take 2-3 years depending on what country you're in (the number of foreigners, and the amount that 'networking' is the usual method of getting better jobs) and if you've stuck it out in that country the entire time or if you've done one year contracts in five countries in five years (apparently okay in some areas, in Japan wouldn't help you much), your qualifications (did you show up with a masters degree in language education already, or did you show up with a totally unrelated BA and nothing else, or did you show up without even an undergraduate degree), the amount of the local language you speak and read (the more the better) etc.
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denise



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A decent career usually requires advanced qualifications--an MA or a DELTA. And generally you need a bit of teaching experience before you start an MA or DELTA. So a couple of years of teaching + a year or two getting further qualifications and you're ready to start looking for the better jobs--then however much longer it takes to get settled into a job/country that you're comfortable with.

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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the above two posters are right. Though I'd also have to add the type of experience. If you always work in one type of school, like an institute, you should try to expand, get various work experience types and see what you like, then maybe specialise.
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jdl



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Serious and in for the long haul?

Put in the time to get a degree in teaching B.Ed, M.Ed, with a focus on ELA/ESL; then take yearly in service training/professional development from a recognized mainstream educational body or professional organization with a specialty focus such as special needs, differentiated instruction, administration certification, curriculum development etc.

I have found that a certified teacher particularly at the Masters or Doctorate level moves quickly up the career ladder and is quickly separated from the TEFL pack. The more educationally mainstream and recognizable as a teacher, the broader the horizon.
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