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basiltherat



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 5:40 pm    Post subject: dumb questions Reply with quote

question at interview for a job:

""what do you feel are your greatest strengths and weaknesses as a teacher ?""

eerrrr ... excuse me but, if I knew what my greatest weaknesses were, wouldn't I , as a professional, have done something about them ?

and what about this one:

""what are ur views on the humanistic approach to language teaching ?""

Excuse me ??

does any one else find these types of questions to be pretty dumb ? Are there anymore such dumb questions you've been asked at an interview ? Experiences ?
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Shonai Ben



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I were asked these stupid questions I would get up and leave.
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basiltherat



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or ..... slam the phone down as i did. wat morons. who do they think they are??
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dmb



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I"m guilty. I have tasked those questions. Sorry Embarassed
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Lynn



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are your weaknessess is a standard interview question. I

've been asked some pretty stupid questions at interviews, though. When I was applying to be a nanny there was a question on the application, "What would you do if the child spilled his/her milk?"
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BethMac



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been asked the greatest strength and greatest weakness question on many an interview. I've always found it to be a rather dumb question as well.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being asked your strengths and weaknesses is pretty standard. How you answer is important, not dumb.

Stating your strengths is an obvious thing, so I won't cover it here.
Being able to describe your weaknesses and turn it around to show how you handle them is what the employer wants to hear. Everybody has weaknesses, so
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"if I knew what my greatest weaknesses were, wouldn't I , as a professional, have done something about them?"
the employer wants to know how you have done that? Make a negative in to a positive. It's not dumb.

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""what are ur views on the humanistic approach to language teaching ?""


Again, this is not dumb. If you think the humanistic approach is dumb, say so. If you think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, say so. The important thing the employer wants is to hear you support your reply. If you don't even know what the humanistic approach is, then you will have to dance around the question and fumble with your answer, showing either your ignorance, or a clever way to get the employer to explain it to you so you can provide a response.

Dumbest question (or should I say, most inappropriate, irrelevant) I ever had was, "What do your parents do?" I was looking for a research assistantship position in graduate school, for crying out loud! My family had no connection to me whatsoever, nor did the employer have any right to ask about their occupations.
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shmooj



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
nor did the employer have any right to ask about their occupations.

Is that not one in the Constitution then Wink

As for the topic: have you never thrown anyone a curve just for the sake of finding out how they would react? I know I have.

In these cases, it is not the question that is important nor even the answer. What counts is the reaction. When you slammed the phone down basil, they might have thought, "Well that shows he won't be able to field any dumb questions if administration ask them. Good thing we didn't employ him."

Sometimes employers have to throw curves because we are all on our best behaviour during interviews.
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guest of Japan



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lynn wrote:
When I was applying to be a nanny there was a question on the application, "What would you do if the child spilled his/her milk?"


I assume you answered, "I won't cry."
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phis



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schmooj has got it right. (Again)

Nobody is looking for a straight answer to the strength/ weaknesses question. It's more about self-awareness and acknowledging that your not perfect - but can work on it! And, yes, to find out what your reactions are likely to be in situations that aren't entirely to your liking.

And other 'curved ball' questions, to see what your reaction will be? - A time-honoured interview technique - with sometimes surprising, and often hilarious, results.
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Laura C



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the end of my JET interview, they threw at me:

1) Your preferred cities are Tokyo, Kobe and Nagoya. Can you point to them on this map of Japan?

2) Do you know who the Japanese prime minister is?

3) Have you watched any Japanese films? Can you name any? Any directors?

Now I know they are trying to find out the depth of the my knowledge/interest in Japan, but these questions were just batted at me, no preambles, nothing. And at the very end of the interview when I thought I was safe! Embarassed My other JET friends say they got weird (different) questions at the end of their interview too -- we thought it was just the panel's way of assessing interviewees' reaction to the odd.

Luckily I am usually OK in interviews, so, though I didn't know the answers (I did remember where Tokyo was on the map though; go me!), I was able to be calm and laugh and say something along the lines of That's a difficult one, you've got me there, etc etc.

Clever tactic of JET I always thought...clearly if you stood there flapping your mouth like a goldfish they might deduce Here is a person who can't think on her feet...

L
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dreadnought



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was a DoS for several years and I ALWAYS asked the 'strengths and weaknesses' question, even though I knew it was a bit dumb. The problem was that I never really liked asking those 'so, how would you teach the present perfect to a group of intermediate teenagers?' questions either, so it was easier to fall back on the more general stuff.

To be honest, I was working in Eastern Europe and most interviews were less of a grilling of the teacher and more me begging them to take the job. Most of the time I was like a cheap salesman, trying to convince these folks with fancy job offers from Spain and Italy that, in fact, Lithuania was a surprisingly warm place, and yes, feel free to bring along your sunglasses and speedos. Grey? no, no, no. You've got it all wrong. That's the Soviet Union you're thinking about. Will you live in a tower block? Possibly, possibly, but it will be a nice tower block. Washing machine? Kind of. More of a bath tub, though you can call it a 'washing machine' if you want. Have you seen the women here? I'll send some pictures...

I'm glad I don't do that stuff anymore.
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shmooj



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of throwing curves, how's this?

Immigration Lilongwe airport Malawi and I have this conversation:

"What do you do?"
"I'm a student."
"What are you studying?"
"Architecture."
"Tell me one famous 20th century architect."
pause...
"Le Corbusier."
"And where are you going?"
"Blantyre."
"Blantyre Scotland or Blantyre Malawi?"
pause...
"errrr Malawi?"

by that point I was so bemused I was unsure where I was in fact going.

Others had reported strange questioning at immigration there under the former dictator too.
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basiltherat



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski
I don't agree. If theyd wanted me to tell them how i had dealt with a weakness i had, then why didnt they ask me just that. i would have answered them. in fact i think thats a good interview question. the mere fact that they did not ask me this, was the reason i answered as i did.
I would not answer with my age if someone asked me what my name was. would you ?
Interview questions should be answered appropriately.

as for the humanistic question, besides getting bemused at the earlier question and obviously not in the best of moods to answer another one, i would have liked to have been asked how i adapt my teaching to cater for different students' learning styles and characters. while longer, i think this is a more sensible way to ask rather than using high and mighty words which would most likely only be written rather than spoken. give me a break, interviewer ! i just dont have time for this.

PS i do not regretting slamming the phone down at all. i would not want to work for an organisation which cannot, in my view, ask sensible questions or ask them in a more appropriate tone than they did. anyway, i feel its their loss; not mine.
feel free to comment.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't agree. If theyd wanted me to tell them how i had dealt with a weakness i had, then why didnt they ask me just that. i would have answered them. in fact i think thats a good interview question. the mere fact that they did not ask me this, was the reason i answered as i did.


I side with shmooj and phis on this. You overreacted.

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I would not answer with my age if someone asked me what my name was. would you ?


In Japan, yes. In Japan it's not illegal to do so, and it has various connotations about seniority that may prove useful. In my home country (USA), no, but they wouldn't ask that because it's illegal to do so, and I would point that out. In either case, one look at a resume to see when you graduated high school will tell them what they need to know, plus or minus a year. For foreign resumes, you will probably have your birth date on the resume anyway. Passport, for sure.

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as for the humanistic question, besides getting bemused at the earlier question and obviously not in the best of moods to answer another one, i would have liked to have been asked how i adapt my teaching to cater for different students' learning styles and characters. while longer, i think this is a more sensible way to ask


You really should listen more to what the interviewer is saying and read between the lines, as shmooj pointed out. Answering with what you just wrote would be acceptable and would serve both purposes: responding to the question itself, giving your preferred answer.

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i would not want to work for an organisation which cannot, in my view, ask sensible questions or ask them in a more appropriate tone than they did.


Two follow-up notes here.
1. What do you expect such an employer to ask in the way of "sensible" questions?
2. Previously, you wrote nothing about tone. What do you mean when you say they asked in an inappropriate tone? This would make a lot of difference in what we are trying to tell you.
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