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teachthemorkillthem



Joined: 08 Jul 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:37 pm    Post subject: university jobs in shanghai Reply with quote

hi all,

i guess you guys are best placed to give me the low-down.

(1) if i turn up in shanghai in september, what are my chances of landing a half-decent univ. job teaching english?
(2) what sort of pay could i expect?
(3) what is the cost of living in shanghai?
(4) is shanghai as fun as they make out?

my background: first degree, celta, about 7 yrs teaching xp, two references from short-term posts in uk universities, one reference from short-term contract with british council, references from some ielts test prep centres. no ma/ no delta.

my focus is on saving money but i don't want to go to the middle-east. i would like to enjoy this coming year a little while saving.

i applied for a job in shanghai recently that was paying 18K - 28K GBP but i was not short-listed. are there many jobs like this available?

cheers
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teachthemorkillthem



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

would really appreciate some pointers...
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Mister Al



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've obviously got the right qualifications/experience but September will be too late for universities, I would think. Language mills for a few months while you settle and then try to get in 2nd semester?
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teachthemorkillthem



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh yeah

the semester dates are different Embarassed

do they have many international programmes that go with the september to january cycle?

how much can i earn?
what will it cost to live there?

is shanghai good fun or should i try korea?
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Zero



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What kind of fun? How could anybody answer that question unless you tell what your idea of fun is? What do you enjoy? Golf? Bowling? Knitting? Watercolor painting?
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JGC458



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really OP, these questions have been done to death (following your disturbing "termination" theme).

You should at least claim that the search function on here wasn't working when you tried it. Though even a brief search on google would have given you some answers.

But hang in there, probably some kind soul will give you the answers you don't seem to want to look for for yourself.

And yes, many people find Shanghai fun. Are you the same as those people??
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teachthemorkillthem



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is it fun in general and why should that be so? no debate, no qualifying things. let people interpret the question as they will and then tell their own story.

i dont see it as an intelligence test or that there is some protocol which i am not abiding by. if i have failed the intelligence test, then please may i have a certificate attesting to the fact.

trawling through threads is boring. i want people to respond and answer my questions, which must be quite easy.

thanks.
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teachthemorkillthem



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

teach them or kill them

my friend coined that when i was applying to military intelligence - he was of the opinion that the army was a load of crap and that i should be a teacher instead.

i was weighing things up when he uttered the phrase - it seemed quite whimsical.

now i am teaching muslims in tunisia and they are very nice people. tunisia is a very boring place and almost everybody who works here agrees, so it safe to generalise at times i think.
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teachthemorkillthem



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

disclaimer: not all muslims are nice people - forgive the generalisation

also, forgive me for defining people by their religion

they are arabs for the most part i think
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Fred Smith



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

teachthemorkillthem wrote:
disclaimer: not all muslims are nice people - forgive the generalisation

also, forgive me for defining people by their religion

they are arabs for the most part i think


You should quit while you are behind.
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dharma86



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fred Smith wrote:
teachthemorkillthem wrote:
disclaimer: not all muslims are nice people - forgive the generalisation

also, forgive me for defining people by their religion

they are arabs for the most part i think


You should quit while you are behind.


I agree.

Clearly you are going to find both nice and displeasent people from any nationality, ethniticity, religion, creed or political orientation.
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Mojoski



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to a 2007 report I surfed up, Shanghai is the 26th most expensive city in the world (this puts it above Dubai and Los Angeles, among other cities which are not cheap). I applied for two universities that were paying 11,000, but no housing or transportation and lots of down time that was unpaid. Not nearly enough.

Shanghai is a fun place if you like night life and have deep pockets. I was detained in the airport there once for a couple of hours (don't ask), but otherwise have not been there, but I have had some skype friends there for some time, and I have this impression from them.

Shanghai has 20 MILLION people. That may make it attractive to some people, but not to me.
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teachthemorkillthem



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dharma86 wrote:
Fred Smith wrote:
teachthemorkillthem wrote:
disclaimer: not all muslims are nice people - forgive the generalisation

also, forgive me for defining people by their religion

they are arabs for the most part i think


You should quit while you are behind.


I agree.

Clearly you are going to find both nice and displeasent people from any nationality, ethniticity, religion, creed or political orientation.


i agree too. we all agree. we are all homogenous.
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teachthemorkillthem



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mojoski wrote:
According to a 2007 report I surfed up, Shanghai is the 26th most expensive city in the world (this puts it above Dubai and Los Angeles, among other cities which are not cheap). I applied for two universities that were paying 11,000, but no housing or transportation and lots of down time that was unpaid. Not nearly enough.

Shanghai is a fun place if you like night life and have deep pockets. I was detained in the airport there once for a couple of hours (don't ask), but otherwise have not been there, but I have had some skype friends there for some time, and I have this impression from them.

Shanghai has 20 MILLION people. That may make it attractive to some people, but not to me.


good nightlife
big and bustling
very expensive

unless i can land a well-paid job i won't bother

are there any university jobs starting in september?

can anybody offer any leads?

thanks for the responses so far ...
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Zero



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shanghai is loads of fun. It has several large, well-established knitting clubs, and they're always welcoming new members. The basket-weaving scene is awesome, and you can get a loom at a decent price if you know where to look.
There are a couple of popular bluegrass music clubs, and several stores specializing in Mork & Mindy figurines and the like.
Not sure as to the furry scene.
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