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[erdal]

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[Sheikh Inal Ovar]

Some sort of TEFL course would be a good start .. a one month on site course will give you some of the basics to work with ..

Then you can look forward to an apprenticeship of sorts at a language school .. and if a few years of that that doesn't put you off forever, you can think about moving to university level teaching and doing a masters

[Barnicles]

Hi Erdal, from your surname I'm presuming you are a dual national. I heard from a close friend of mine in a similar situation as yours that Turkish citizens need a degree in English literature or teaching to teach in Turkey (pursuant to YOK requirements), while foreigners can use any 4 year degree and a TEFL qualification to teach English in Turkey.

If your a dual national (my friend calls it 'cift vatandash'), then the Turkish citizen rules apply, regardless of the fact that you may have been born in Australia. Therefore, you won't be able to work at YOK regulated institutions - universities, high schools, reputatble private schools.

Mind you, I only heard this from my friend from what he experienced. Perhaps someone else on these forums can correct the information above.

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[ossie39]

Hi Erdal. I think you really need to make sure that your new degree has teaching practice and is recognised by the Australian government, if done in Australia. I thought YUK only refers to university. Edibiyat is state school. Check me out please any other readers. To make money you would a) get experience in a language school after training and then start up your language school. b) option negotiate with a private university.c) translation and training self employed.
The state school system can be tricky. Good luck.

[erdal]

Thank you for your help ossie39

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[Barnicles]

Erdal, asked my friend to explain it further.

he said it depends on what type of degree. If you get a degree in Commerce or law or science etc, then no, you can't get a job at Unis/state schools/reputatable private english schools (cause YOK regulations apply). Of course you can work for private schools that don't care about thoise regulations, but your working conditions would be bad (basically they can f**k you around). IF you wern't a turkish citizen, then you can use the above degrees to get a job.

But you sound OK, since you said your getting a degree in Teaching (make sure the degree is in English language or literature). My frined said that you should be OK to get a job with those qualifications.

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[ossie39]

You asked me to explain further, so here goes. EFL/ESOL/EAL teaching qualifications can come from broadly speaking 2 areas. This is the typically EFL 4 week certificate/dip 8 weeks and the MA (TEFL) which actually rarely has any teaching component anyway. If it does it doesn't matter because people who do it already have experience - or should have. The second type of qualification qualifies you as a professional teacher to teach in schools in your country at least, under the ministry of Education. In this instance I refer to school teachers specialising in EFL/ESOL/EAP.
In some instances the second bet may be a safer option in terms of openings in employment to you.
As for opening your own school - the statement speaks for itself. Also it isn't only Turks who open schools in Turkey. The school would likely be a language school, but could be lise or whatever with help. Good luck.

[ossie39]

You asked me to explain further, so here goes. EFL/ESOL/EAL teaching qualifications can come from broadly speaking 2 areas. This is the typically EFL 4 week certificate/dip 8 weeks and the MA (TEFL) which actually rarely has any teaching component anyway. If it does it doesn't matter because people who do it already have experience - or should have. The second type of qualification qualifies you as a professional teacher to teach in schools in your country at least, under the ministry of Education. In this instance I refer to school teachers specialising in EFL/ESOL/EAP.
In some instances the second bet may be a safer option in terms of openings in employment to you.
As for opening your own school - the statement speaks for itself. Also it isn't only Turks who open schools in Turkey. The school would likely be a language school, but could be lise or whatever with help. Good luck.

[erdal]

[Marquess]

How about improving your English first, getting a degree and then worrying about it? I am for planning ahead but you are taking it to ridiculous levels.

No, you cannot make good money on (sic) private lessons.

You cannot make good money teaching in Turkey.