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[adrian de la touche]

a quick simple question or three;
when leaving the country at the end of a contract is the valid until date on your kitas the day you can actually leave on? or do you have to be out before?mine says valid until december 10th.
presumably one requires an exit permit only with which they will cancel your kitas and replace it. how many days do you have to use the EPO from when they stamp it in you passport, or how much earlier can you get it done? how quickly can you get anEPO issued in bali?
had a look through other posts and couldnt quite find a definitive answer to this one; if one is leaving on an EPO does one have to pay fiscal tax?
any thoughts would be appreciated.

[Ozindo]

Here's some information you might find helpful:
As I understand it, the KITAS is your short-term work permit, so you can work here until the date shown on the KITAS. However, often your contract shows a different date, and many employers follow the contractual date.
For example, your KITAS expires on December 10, but if you check your contract, it will probably show a different date. When you decide to leave work, the ideal is to negotiate with your employer as to when they will cancel the KITAS and when you will be leaving the country.
I think as far as the immigration and other departments are concerned, you can leave the country whenever you wish, providing you have an exit visa. As for your employer, that depends on your contract.
From my experience, some employers have been known to agree on teachers completing their contracts on the specified end-of-employment date (minus any annual leave due) and then staying in the country until their KITAS expires. I guess it depends on what you want to do and what your employer's general policy is.
To actually leave the country requires an exit permit only (if you are planning to leave for a short time and then return you need an exit-reentry visa; but you seem to indicate you are planning to leave and not return).
Most employers (again from my experience) arrange this for you and it is often a negotiable dateline. If, for instance, your end-of-contract date is November 10 and your KITAS expires on December 10, you might want to finish work, then spend a few days packing up your belongings, saying goodbyes etc. You might therefore suggest to your employer that your EPO is for November 20 (or thereabouts). Many employers would be agreeable to this sort of arrangement.
EPOs usually have a seven-day span and it is made clear that you must leave by the last date shown thereon.
Some points to consider: Immigration and other authorities may have set a quota of "foreign experts" for the company and while you are holding a KITAS, the company may be unable to hire a new employee, so this could influence your negotiations with them; contracts differ, so it would be a good idea to check yours; many companies use an agent, and agents may differ slightly in the way they work; there are other departments involved, but - usually - they don't affect the cancelling of a KITAS or the issuing of an EPO.
Now, having said all that, I have to add that my experience is based on Jakarta/West Java, and I really can't speak with any authority about Bali. Here, the EPO is available about a week after an employee and the company have decided on a mutually acceptable date, and obviously cannot be processed until you give them your passport.
Hope all that helps (and is clear). Any more questions, feel free to ask. Hopefully there'll be someone on the Forum with some local knowledge of how long the process takes in Bali.
And, no... you don't have to pay fiscal tax when leaving on an EPO.

[tanyakenapa]

I just left on an EPO two weeks ago.

You dont have to pay fiscal tax.

Once its stamped in your passport, you have 14days to leave the country.

The EPO itself takes 3 days to process, and usually costs around 700 thousand. Your employer should pay that for you anyway.

When you hand in your passport to get the EPO, your employer will ask you for your KITAS (unless they kept it with them) and your SKLD (Police card) if they issued you one. This is returned to immigration and the police card is returned to the police office.

[malu]