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		| KarenMarie 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 9:03 pm    Post subject: recommendation letters |   |  
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				| Help, please. The company I am in contact with wants several. Who should I ask?
 
 What should I avoid?
 
 I have a problem in this area because the person who would be best-suited to write me a letter tried to get me to sleep with him (yes, very unprofessional of him...I was professional about it and, well anyway, it's worse than I care to explain here. (sexual harrassment alert)
 I never reported him to anybody because I think it would have done me more harm than good, but I think he still holds a grudge because I wouldn't do it, even though he was threatening to do something that would hurt my ability to get a job if I didn't, and offering to do something that would help my ability to get hired if I did. Forgive me for not being specific, it's a small world.
 So the thought of using him as a reference makes me want to give up and beat my head against a wall. It suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks. Principles are expensive, I guess.
  I feel like I'm going to get turned down for a lot of jobs because of it. 
 I have a few friends and fellow students, some professors I did T.A. work for ten years ago, doesn't sound good, does it?
 
 What are they looking for, anyway? I need to come up with a couple of letters from somewhere.
 
 
 I am going to cry now.
 
 I'd appreciate any advice you could give me.
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		| Glenski 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:15 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Karen, 
 Sounds like you shouldn't even broach the subject with that person.  Is ther no one else at that company who can vouch for you?  All a recommendation really states is that you are a dependable/reliable person with a good work ethic.  This doesn't have to come from a boss.  If your prospective employer even has a notion of asking why you didn't get a rec from a boss, just say that person no longer works there.  I wouldn't even think someone would ask, however.
 
 What about a college professor as a reference?
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		| KarenMarie 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:40 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | Karen, 
 Sounds like you shouldn't even broach the subject with that person.  Is ther no one else at that company who can vouch for you?  All a recommendation really states is that you are a dependable/reliable person with a good work ethic.  This doesn't have to come from a boss.  If your prospective employer even has a notion of asking why you didn't get a rec from a boss, just say that person no longer works there.  I wouldn't even think someone would ask, however.
 
 What about a college professor as a reference?
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 College was a loooong, loooong time ago. Is it still okay?
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		| Gordon 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:47 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Karen, Have you done any teacher training?  What about volunteer work?  You could even put someone down who was a colleague of yours but has now moved on to a management position somewhere else.  I've found that the status of the reference makes a big difference to potential employers.
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		| Glenski 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 6:54 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| If college was that long ago, I assume you must have had more than one job since then.  Can't you use people from them?  I also assume that you have kept a resume while you were working at your most recent job in hopes of looking for the next one, and therefore have references on that. |  | 
	
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		| viddy 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 7:19 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Karen, sorry to hear about your problems. 
 What kind of company are you applying for a position at? If it is one of the Big 4 schools (NOVA, GEOS, AEON, ECC), I don't think the letters of reference matter a great deal. Therefore a letter from anyone within the company (and not this creep you had for a boss) may well be sufficient, along with another letter from an academic referee.
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