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GambateBingBangBOOM
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 2021 Location: Japan
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:21 am Post subject: Japan Times:New better training for Japanese teachers coming |
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http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20090828a6.html
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/print/nn20090828a6.html
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The Democratic Party of Japan will extend the four-year training program for teacher certification by two years starting in the 2012 academic year if it takes power after the election, party sources said Thursday.
At the same time, the DPJ would scrap the teacher license renewal system that began in April because it believes the system puts too heavy a burden on schools and teachers, the sources said.
The six-year program � four years at the undergraduate level and two years of graduate work, would include a requirement to hold an internship at a school for one year, they said. |
Sounds like a good start. But I think the problem is that reports keep coming out that Japanese students are unable to apply their knowledge. Fixing problems like that requires actually changing the way teaching is done (kids can't really use English creatively because they've never really used English creatively in the past). So a year of practicum is all great and fine, but if it's a year of really just being treated like crap by the higher ups who continue to use the textbook as the syllabus, while standing straight and having a serene face, then is that really going to improve their teaching?
It also says that there will be a licence before being able to be a principal or vice-principal.
For me, the issue is that it SOUNDS like a good start, but then it also sounds like they've looked and seen that not only do other countries require M.Ed in Educational Leadership of principals in their countries (most western countries), but they also often have PGCE / B.Ed programs that are a year specifically in teaching a particular subject to a particular audience. And there are now academic articles in educational leadership journals comparing Japanese teacher training as well as principalship (non)training with western countries, and these articles are not saying much about Japan that could be regarded as highly positive. So it could end up being just an attempt at cosmetic copying of western countries' systems, without the fundamental changes that are required to actually do anything that will improve the system (anything in that direction would require change of teachers who may have been teaching in the same lecturing format for the last twenty-five years, meaning that it would face a huge amount of resistance or 'sure we'll get right on that' while never actually changing anything at all- which was probably one of the reasons behind the re-licensing test in the first place). |
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fluffyhamster
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 3292 Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:57 am Post subject: |
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There are some good JTEs, but I get the impression they are only good (communicative, resourceful, adaptable etc) because they actually liked and earnestly studied the language (rather than just practising its bare essentials teaching). Until the actual subject knowledge is properly assessed and if need be developed and/or the subject syllabus changed accordingly, I fear that any retraining will just be so much jumping through rather slow easy hoops. Have they really yet bothered asking the nails that stick out how they came to do so? If not, they probably should. |
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cornishmuppet
Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Posts: 642 Location: Nagano, Japan
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:33 am Post subject: |
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Sounds like they're making it compulsory for all new teachers to do a year or more of near-slavery on 180,000 yen, rather than just those who fail the ridiculously hard final exam yet are still considered perfectly able to teach (I've taught with many, including one who was the Head of English and a veteran of two schools).
Interesting news on the Principals. While the Vice-Principals I've known have all seemed pretty down to earth ex-teachers, the Principals all have had the air of being part of some old-boys club airlifted in to run a school with no actually classroom experience, but lots and lots of experience of sitting around shooting the &&&& with other old high-up types. |
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womblingfree
Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Posts: 826
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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cornishmuppet wrote: |
Sounds like they're making it compulsory for all new teachers to do a year or more of near-slavery on 180,000 yen. |
This is normal around the world when doing a teaching license like a Bed or PGCE. You normally don't do full-time hours though and get a government bursary.
It's the same for most professional occupations.
EDIT: Hang on, is this part of the course or the first year as a qualified teacher? I'm presuming it's the former. |
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GambateBingBangBOOM
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 2021 Location: Japan
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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It sounds like it's part of the course, but also the first year of teaching, though it could be a year of teaching, then going back to taking classes for a year, or it could be half a day of teaching half a day of classes for two years.
In any case, it's 'part of the course' in that you won't be a qualified teacher without it.
And you don't get paid in all countries to do this kind of thing. Though I've never done a full time year long practicum, the practicum for my university TESL certificate was through the entire program (an academic year), but it wasn't paid (same as people in the one-year k-12 teacher preparation courses). The internship I did while in a college program for advertising was two months full-time after having finished all the coursework, also totally unpaid (Some companies in Ontario, Canada actually get by with a full-time unpaid intern instead of entry level employees because by playing off different colleges and their internship periods, they can have someone to do entry level tasks for most of the year, and so, of course, they tend to never actually hire entry level people, they can just use students at varying levels of industry-specific training after having already finished their degree, and for the short periods when there isn't one available, they just up the amount of work that each intermediate/ senior person has to do). |
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cornishmuppet
Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Posts: 642 Location: Nagano, Japan
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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I don't quite know how it works but three teachers I know of in my high school just took the exam again. They announced it in the teacher's meeting a few weeks ago and there was lots of 'ganbarre-ing' from all the other teachers. I don't know how the two guy teachers got on but the female teacher (science) told me she failed again. She's been working as a teacher for something like eight years over Junior and Senior. The other two are fully working teachers doing (as far as I can tell) no more no less than any of the other teachers.
It seems to me (someone correct me if I'm wrong) that you can complete the course and do the work but if you want a teacher's salary you have to pass a rock hard final exam that a lot of people opt out of. A drunk teacher once told me it was a government way of saving a buck. I couldn't really say as I don't know the ins and outs of the system, but it certainly looks that way. |
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womblingfree
Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Posts: 826
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:26 am Post subject: |
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GambateBingBangBOOM wrote: |
And you don't get paid in all countries to do this kind of thing. Though I've never done a full time year long practicum, the practicum for my university TESL certificate was through the entire program (an academic year), but it wasn't paid (same as people in the one-year k-12 teacher preparation courses). The internship I did while in a college program for advertising was two months full-time after having finished all the coursework, also totally unpaid |
I was thinking more of a state teaching licence (B.ed/PGCE). In the UK you often get a bursary to study these, dependent on subject. Not sure about the States, but I think this applies in Australia and Canada as well. Nurses, doctors and law students often do paid or subsidised hours while studying as too.
You'll never get a government bursary for a TEFL course unless it's part of a state teaching license. |
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GambateBingBangBOOM
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 2021 Location: Japan
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:34 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I know.
Not sure about the States. I'm Canadian. You don't get any sort of bursary in Ontario, at least. Nearly every single person who graduates with a degree in English applies to teacher's college in Ontario. The areas they are hurting are in French and math. Still no bursary bribes, though. You don't get paid during your practicum for teaching (or almost nobody does, I guess SOMEBODY may have got money). For other work areas, you ***MAY*** but usually you get nothing these days, though sometimes you may get a lump sum at the end (which is usually not even enough to cover what you spent on transportation getting to and fro work). |
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guest of Japan

Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 1601 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:56 am Post subject: |
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No money in the states either. |
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womblingfree
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:22 am Post subject: |
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guest of Japan wrote: |
No money in the states either. |
In the UK you get a �6000 bursary to study some subjects at Be.ed/PGCE level and �8000 if you're doing stuff like maths. You also get a 'Golden Handshake' of up to �8000 once you've completed your first qualified year teaching.
It's because there was a severe lack of teachers in key subjects like English/maths etc. |
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GambateBingBangBOOM
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 2021 Location: Japan
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:28 am Post subject: |
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womblingfree wrote: |
guest of Japan wrote: |
No money in the states either. |
In the UK you get a �6000 bursary to study some subjects at Be.ed/PGCE level and �8000 if you're doing stuff like maths. You also get a 'Golden Handshake' of up to �8000 once you've completed your first qualified year teaching.
It's because there was a severe lack of teachers in key subjects like English/maths etc. |
English? There's a shortage of English teachers? It's one of the hardest areas to get into in Ontario because so many English majors apply. |
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womblingfree
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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GambateBingBangBOOM wrote: |
English? There's a shortage of English teachers? It's one of the hardest areas to get into in Ontario because so many English majors apply. |
Just checked on the Teachers website and it looks like for high school you used to get �5000, which was reduced to �2500 last year. Can't find the rates for this year, maybe they've been scrapped because of the recession? |
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