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King Saud University (KSU) among the World's Best 200

 
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Noor



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:49 pm    Post subject: King Saud University (KSU) among the World's Best 200 Reply with quote

[ Friday, 31 July 2009 ]
Reaching a wider academic audience
Saudi university among The World's Best 200

A renowned university in Saudi Arabia entered the club of the world's best 200 academic institutions according to the Spanish international classification system "Webometrics," which also ranked the university as the first in Arab and Islamic Worlds for web visibility.

King Saud University (KSU) ranked 197 worldwide and the first in the Arab and Islamic university world for its Internet dissemination of scientific knowledge, reaching a wider audience of researchers and institutions with its advanced web policy, according to the Webometrics Ranking of World's Universities.

King Saud University jumped from 3259th place in 2007 to 292nd place in 2009

In 2007 KSU occupied the 3259th place, and in July 2008 it came in at the 380th place, finally reaching the 292nd place in 2009 in an unprecedented jump for an Arab and Islamic university ever. For Asia, KSU was the 21st.

KSU's record achievement was attributed to its diversified development scheme that aimed to advance its nano program and satellite labs as well as its renowned recruitment policy that allows for partnering with the best scientists including Nobel laureates.

Following KSU, four other Saudi universities occupied the top five placements with Cairo University coming in at the 6th place.

Webometrics is an initiative of the Cybermetrics Lab, a research project devoted to the quantitative analysis of the Internet and Web contents specially those related to the processes of generating scholarly communication of scientific knowledge.

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2009/07/31/80383.html
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the horse's mouth.
http://www.webometrics.info/

The overall ranking of Asia is influenced by the good performance of Taiwan and Saudi universities (which are excessively focusing on web performance with search engines oriented strategies). Meanwhile, Korean universities are below expected positions (their contents are mostly oriented to students, usually in local language and using duplicate web domains, which is still a common practice in UK too).
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

quantitative analysis of the Spanish Webometrics is not 100% correct. Have a google on KSU and look up the doc. they publish on their website; and you will be surprised with how many BS docs are there. They are basically staff CVs, half-filled A4 pages and sometimes blank ones.

I would have to admit here that they did publish some valuable docs on their website, not to mention the publishing campaign they have launched on google knol. This has surely pushed their ranking up. Could it be a deliberate move?

This is why qualitative research is best known for its capability of offering a rich and in-depth insight of the content of a researched issue.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:10 pm    Post subject: KSU in list of top Universities? Reply with quote

Irrespective of everything that has gone before on this post it must be remembered that KSU IS NOT the KSU Preparatory Programme that has received so much negative criticism on this site. It is the KSU Preparatory Programme that employs EFL Teachers NOT KSU as such.

Make sure you are comparing apples with apples and not pears.
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12 Monkeys



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Noor.

So your point is????????
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huntjuliehunt



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does that Spanish website know about KSU? Students at KSU, themselves, state that there are private universities in Saudi Arabia more highly regarded.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even the British Times Higher Education Supplement ranking is full of s**t. My first master's was in higher-education administration and it appears to me that they don't know anything about the US university system, despite the fact that 7 of their top 10 listings are US institutions, including #1 and #2. For one thing, they ignore the prestigious liberal arts colleges--which are in fact universities, even if they don't concentrate on publish-or-perish. And it's odd to me that they count the number of international students as an important ranking factor. In that case, Miami-Dade Community College should find itself in the top 200 if they ever start offering BA degrees, since they enroll some 5,000 or more foreign students.
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trapezius



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This sudden jump in ranking says nothing about the quality of professors, academics, students, facilities, etc.

In other words, it is meaningless.

It would be impossible for KSU (or any other Saudi uni for that matter, save maybe KFUPM) to be in the top 200 in thw world in terms of quality of education for at least a few centuries.
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Citizenkane



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Trap.

Education in the Gulf is in its infancy. It would be silly to expect colleges here to be anywhere near world class at any time in the foreseeable future.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would disagree with the statement that Gulf education is in its infancy. It's rather in a 'state of confusion'. With so many outsiders running their programs yearly like a revolving door, it's a wonder if students are able to learn anything at all.

They are being taught by foreigners in a language that is foreign and graduating under the illusion that they have actually learned something.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which is why I have always described the system as "smoke and mirrors"

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EFLUndercover wrote:
I would disagree with the statement that Gulf education is in its infancy. It's rather in a 'state of confusion'. With so many outsiders running their programs yearly like a revolving door, it's a wonder if students are able to learn anything at all.

They are being taught by foreigners in a language that is foreign and graduating under the illusion that they have actually learned something.


I have only taught at one uni in Saudi Arabia, but I believe, from what I have read here and have heard from my colleagues, that my experience is pretty much the norm. Where I taught, the "outsiders" (westerners) couldn't run their own noses without permission from the overlords.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:20 pm    Post subject: Re: King Saud University (KSU) among the World's Best 200 Reply with quote

Noor wrote:
[ Friday, 31 July 2009 ]
Reaching a wider academic audience
Saudi university among The World's Best 200

A renowned university in Saudi Arabia entered the club of the world's best 200 academic institutions according to the Spanish international classification system "Webometrics," which also ranked the university as the first in Arab and Islamic Worlds for web visibility.

King Saud University (KSU) ranked 197 worldwide and the first in the Arab and Islamic university world for its Internet dissemination of scientific knowledge, reaching a wider audience of researchers and institutions with its advanced web policy, according to the Webometrics Ranking of World's Universities.

King Saud University jumped from 3259th place in 2007 to 292nd place in 2009

In 2007 KSU occupied the 3259th place, and in July 2008 it came in at the 380th place, finally reaching the 292nd place in 2009 in an unprecedented jump for an Arab and Islamic university ever. For Asia, KSU was the 21st.

KSU's record achievement was attributed to its diversified development scheme that aimed to advance its nano program and satellite labs as well as its renowned recruitment policy that allows for partnering with the best scientists including Nobel laureates.

Following KSU, four other Saudi universities occupied the top five placements with Cairo University coming in at the 6th place.

Webometrics is an initiative of the Cybermetrics Lab, a research project devoted to the quantitative analysis of the Internet and Web contents specially those related to the processes of generating scholarly communication of scientific knowledge.

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2009/07/31/80383.html



G'day everyone
Yeah I like it when you say top 200. I reckon KSU's CS departments full of snitches and rats. They would allure you into a job in their department and make you leave all the other offers you have, make you wait for their reply and upon asking will say sorry the personal department refused your application. You raise the issue with the dean and he never replies back. Thats me who was stung by them.

I would NOT recommend anyone to KSU ... sorry guys.
Oh one more thing ... if i want to say all the above (in a formal way) to the Higher Education commission of KSA can any one give me a lead on that?
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:18 pm    Post subject: Re: King Saud University (KSU) among the World's Best 200 Reply with quote

Chaudhry wrote:
Oh one more thing ... if i want to say all the above (in a formal way) to the Higher Education commission of KSA can any one give me a lead on that?

Why would one want to waste the time, effort, stamp/paper, or bandwidth to do such a thing? Better to spend the time on something more constructive. Laughing

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