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Fazlien Isaacs
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 Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:25 pm Post subject: Dar Arrowad Schools |
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| I have been offered and accepted a post by Dar Arrowad Schools and have been in contact with a Mr. Duddha.... Is there anything I should know about the school. All that I am told is that it is "new and prestigious" ???? |
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johnslat
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trapezius
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I would never accept a job offer at a Saudi school. As would most other people on here. (not take a job)
If you will be teaching primary, it will be OK, but teaching middle school or secondary school you will have to deal with rich spoiled brats. And of course you will have to deal with meddling dictatorial arrogant Saudi management. This last one I don't know as a fact... just surmising. There is an off chance that the management at this particular school happens to be great. I don't know, but chances are very small.
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Linguist
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| have to deal with meddling dictatorial arrogant Saudi management |
Boy, I'll use these very same adjectives with Western management at some institutions here. I've met arrogant backpackers who think they are Chomsky and Halliday, and who would take it personal when they are told who they really are.
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veiledsentiments
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I didn't read that as meaning that all Saudis are such... but that the management way too often can be described with these adjectives, and they also happen to be Saudi since it is Saudi Arabia.
The public school system is notoriously a poor employer in this part of the world.  Students can be a handful and management only adds to the problems...
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sheikher
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funcky1924
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| Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:00 pm Post subject: Re: Dar Arrowad Schools |
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| Fazlien Isaacs wrote: |
| I have been offered and accepted a post by Dar Arrowad Schools and have been in contact with a Mr. Duddha.... Is there anything I should know about the school. All that I am told is that it is "new and prestigious" ???? |
I worked here PT, students are typical saudis, but the elementary kids are great and polite. most of the teachers are arabs, so you will have to deal with that, but decent ones. they've hired a brit recently for the coming year, what group age are you teaching? |
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Linguist
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| most of the teachers are arabs, so you will have to deal with that, but decent ones. |
Did I read this as it should be read ? Isn't this statement blatant racism ! |
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed
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| most of the teachers are arabs, so you will have to deal with that, but decent ones. |
Did I read this as it should be read ? Isn't this statement blatant racism ! |
Like most things, beauty (or ugliness) is in the eye of the beholder. It doesn't have to be "blatant rascism". It could be criticism about the fact that many Arab teachers in such schools completely bend rules, change grades, look the other way, etc, in a manner that anyone with integrity will be undercut and pay the price of being a "bad teacher". Many of these teachers who do whatever is "required" of them aren't, say, bad people...they're more like...um...how do you say...realists!
I didn't take it at all as racist!
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funcky1924
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thank you for all the realistic teachers out there....who do realise that working with Arab teachers, not all but 99.9% of them are out to get you, its a matter of when and how, and not a matter of if.
You really think they like you for earning double figures, whilst they making 2 or 3 thousand a year? and the fact that we want to produce students that thinks, rather than students paying for private tutition as a payment for passing!
if one hasnt realised this YET, I'm sorry they still a freshmen in Saudi. |
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johnslat
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The reality I saw was that although all the non-Saudi, Arab teachers I worked with were highly competent professionals, they were also much more easily intimidated by both Saudi administrators and by Saudi students - which wasn't too surprising since most, if not all, of them had a lot more to lose than most, if not all, of us "western," non-Arab teachers did.
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John |
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