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bluetortilla



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:16 pm    Post subject: Moving to Tokyo- planning ahead Reply with quote

Hi.
I will be moving to Tokyo from January, and although I've heard it's difficult to secure a job before going, I'd like to start the process now.
I've lived in Japan (mainly Fukuoka) for twenty years, have as much teaching experience, and I have the JLPT 1. I have a permanent residency visa, was an exchange student at Sophia University, and ran my own eikaiwa business for over ten years. Besides teaching, I am interested in business, trade, proofreading, and translation.
My question is how to best utilize the net to job hunt now. What are some good online agencies, forums, government employment sites, etc. Japanese is no problem.
Any help is greatly appreciated as always.
Philip
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kind of hard to imagine why you don't already know the answers, considering your background.

Have you looked at the FAQ stickies for links? Exactly what sort of teaching job does a 20-year veteran with JLPT1 want?

If it's only the type of work you listed at the end, then ESL Cafe is not exactly the site you need. I can tell you that proofreading/editing is fiercely competitive, as is translation work.
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bluetortilla



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I understand what you mean.
Where I'm looking for help is in the possibility of securing work before I go back to Japan. I've never tried that before. Most employers require you to be present in the country before they will hire you. I thought perhaps because of my experience, visa, etc., I might have an advantage in securing work before my departure. For example, I wouldn't mind at all an ALT position for starters, but could I be considered while here in the States? Is Interac a good organization to approach?
I know that JET hires from overseas, but the process takes way too long for me. I also know some of the big chain schools hire from over here, but frankly I would rather not work for most (but not all) of them; no offense to anyone.
I have spent the last ten years running my own little eikaiwa school in Fukuoka, enjoying my independence and proofreading/translating on the side. That's gone, alas, and I needed to come back home for some months for personal reasons. There's a lot going on in the field now that I don't about. And so I'm looking for recommendations to good agencies, resume databases, schools, etc. For example, is J-REC any good?
To finish rambling, I know that the ESL Cafe is not the right place to look for work in the business field, but I thought perhaps someone here might know of a good link that would be.
In the meantime I'll explore those stickies' links. Thanks for the help.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluetortilla wrote:
Yes, I understand what you mean.
Where I'm looking for help is in the possibility of securing work before I go back to Japan.
Let's just be sure of a few things first.

1. You have PR (not a visa, BTW, but a status of residence). Good.

2. You are not in Japan now. How long have you been out, and did you get a reentry permit before you left?


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I've never tried that before. Most employers require you to be present in the country before they will hire you. I thought perhaps because of my experience, visa, etc., I might have an advantage in securing work before my departure.
Depends on the employer.

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For example, I wouldn't mind at all an ALT position for starters, but could I be considered while here in the States? Is Interac a good organization to approach?
I know that JET hires from overseas, but the process takes way too long for me.
If you've already been here for 20 years, how old are you now? JET's upper age limit is 40, and even though that has been bent sometimes, it would be helpful to know your age.

As for ALTs, yes, you are eligible, but I can't imagine why you would stoop so low to do that after what you've done so far.


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There's a lot going on in the field now that I don't about.
Like what, and what field?

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And so I'm looking for recommendations to good agencies, resume databases, schools, etc. For example, is J-REC any good?
JRECIN (if that's what you mean) is for university work. What sort of degree do you have? Master's in a specific field is the norm.

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To finish rambling, I know that the ESL Cafe is not the right place to look for work in the business field, but I thought perhaps someone here might know of a good link that would be.
You really haven't said much about your non-teaching qualifications. Can you elaborate? I'd offer to send you to Career Cross or Daijob.com just blindly.

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bluetortilla



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 45, by the way. As regards my residency status, I have been out of Japan for six months. You are allowed 3 years and I have my re-entry permit.
That's the thing, I really don't know, other than running a school, what kind of positions might be available to me in the field of eikaiwa. I know that once in Japan more lucrative positions can be found through networking, but in Fukuoka at least many people seem to be stringing jobs together.
I don't have a Master's but I know that it is at least possible to get a university job without one (I've done it), but you usually apply and interview way in advance.
As a small business owner, I dealt with many people (staff, service people, salespeople, advertisers, etc.), and I learned many skills useful in marketing and promotion. I wrote my own ad copy in Japanese and must have handled over a hundred or more sales closures. I'd like to put these skills to use, if not right away then later, but I'm not sure how to get started other than throwing my resume out there. Thanks for the leads though.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluetortilla wrote:
I'm 45, by the way. As regards my residency status, I have been out of Japan for six months. You are allowed 3 years and I have my re-entry permit.
Good. Glad to hear it.

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That's the thing, I really don't know, other than running a school, what kind of positions might be available to me in the field of eikaiwa.
Eikaiwa is not a "field". It is simply a conversation school. At your age and with your experiences, I really don't understand why you would want to start such a thing. Why did you stop running your own school?

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I know that once in Japan more lucrative positions can be found through networking, but in Fukuoka at least many people seem to be stringing jobs together.
That's the nature of many EFL (not eikaiwa) jobs these days in Japan. Not all, of course, but many, whether in university, HS, or business English, etc. I would imagine you have a family to support or at least that retirement goals are on your mind recently, so to consider making ends meet and looking down the road with only eikaiwa on your docket is not really good planning, if you don't mind my saying. Do I know people doing that at roughly your age? Yes, but they are not all that happy or confident about the future.

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I don't have a Master's but I know that it is at least possible to get a university job without one (I've done it), but you usually apply and interview way in advance.
Don't get me going on this one. With PR, you can apply for any kind of teaching (or non-teaching) positions, including university, and yes, there are some uni jobs that don't require a master's. But even the PT positions these days (what seems to amount to the majority of uni work, compared to FT anyway) are tending to ask for a master's and even publications. It depends on what sort of uni you apply to. Don't expect a very good deal overall if the uni takes someone without a master's.

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As a small business owner, I dealt with many people (staff, service people, salespeople, advertisers, etc.), and I learned many skills useful in marketing and promotion. I wrote my own ad copy in Japanese and must have handled over a hundred or more sales closures. I'd like to put these skills to use, if not right away then later, but I'm not sure how to get started other than throwing my resume out there. Thanks for the leads though.
If you must look at eikaiwa, look at the managerial jobs. Otherwise, consider some business English agencies if that fancies you. See the FAQ stickies for links. Otherwise the other 2 sites I mentioned will have far more non-teaching jobs than teaching. Ever think about getting into HR? How about being a recruiter? (Not my taste, and I certainly wouldn't want to live off commission.) You've been here a long time and should have made plenty of contacts. Spread your name around, or spread your questions around!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes! Career Cross and Daijob are great starts. It looks like I have enough links now to start a hunt in earnest. I'll post how it's going in a few weeks. Thanks for the help and encouragement Glenski.
I closed my business, by the way, for many complicated reasons which I don't need to go into here. I will say this though: the school down the block suddenly began to seriously out-compete us. For two years i fought back with every marketing strategy in the book. From a business prospective, we could have weathered and done well once again. There were other factors though that precluded that from ever happening and had nothing to do with business.
You are right in your assessment of not being able to get a decent job in universities without a master's. I won't even try (though I would pick a part time gig if it just happened to come my way). I do know of at least one man though who does not have a master's, is not bilingual, and has a wonderful full time position at one of the universities in Fukuoka. So you never know.
Finally, no, I have no desire to be trying to eke out a career in eikaiwa or any similar EFL positions. That sounds mighty depressing. I just have to reconcile myself to the fact that I might HAVE to do that kind of work for a while. Truthfully, I'm most interested in trade between Japan, other Asian countries, and North America. And the more independently I can operate the better. But to break into any business environment, instructor or otherwise, would be my most realistic hope for right now.
Now to throw my credentials around!
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluetortilla wrote:
Truthfully, I'm most interested in trade between Japan, other Asian countries, and North America. And the more independently I can operate the better. But to break into any business environment, instructor or otherwise, would be my most realistic hope for right now.
Now to throw my credentials around!
Have you considered being a trainer for JICA or doing something with JETRO?
http://www.jica.go.jp/english/
http://www.jetro.go.jp/
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