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Justinelebonne



Joined: 11 Jun 2009
Posts: 42
Location: UK

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:37 pm    Post subject: New to Japan Reply with quote

Hi,

I am moving to Japan in January 2010 and i really need some help.

I really do not know where to start.

My main questions are-

- Can i arrive on a one way ticket?
- Do i find a job when i get there?
-Where is the best place to live? I am not into big city life. I would prefer to be by the beach and around nature. I would however, still like to be able to have a lot of friends, ex pat or otherwise.
-How do i go about finding a job?
-What salary can i expect?
-Will i be able to save money and still enjoy my life?
-Will i be able to eat vegetarian?
-What kind of hours would i be teaching?

Thanks,

Justine
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GambateBingBangBOOM



Joined: 04 Nov 2003
Posts: 2021
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Without a job or contacts, REALLY, REALLY do research before just showing up in Japan in January to look for a job. There basically are none then.

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Can i arrive on a one way ticket?

probably not without a job. Look into a working holiday visa (but not if you're American- you can't get one)

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Do i find a job when i get there?

If you arrive in January, you will almost definitely be unemployed until April first and may not get paid until the end of April or END of May. Bring A LOT of money to tide you over, and keep in mind that you likely only have a three month tourist visa meaning that the pressure will be on- you could well show up, look for a job and have to leave the country.
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Where is the best place to live? I am not into big city life. I would prefer to be by the beach and around nature. I would however, still like to be able to have a lot of friends, ex pat or otherwise.

Thailand. Japanese beaches are not that great. It sounds like you're describing Okinawa- where there are virtually no jobs at all, and the ones that are there pay much less than the same on Honshu (and the pay for Japanese people is less as well), and the competition is just ridiculous. If you decide to target areas like that, then it is HIGHLY likely that you will be leaving the country when your tourist visa is up. You need to be in a big city because that's where the jobs are.
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How do i go about finding a job?
If you just show up without a working visa and totally unable to understand the language? Ummm...... apply and make it clear you're looking for a visa. You can expect to do an awful lot of applying online and then hopefully going to interview, but like I mentioned, you should expect to be unemployed until April and possibly not receive a pay cheque until the end of May. Stay in a guest house.
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What salary can i expect?
Rock bottom. Enough to get by on. Possibly save a bit, but without Japanese language skills, qualifications or connections... Mad It may be alright though, you may get a half decent job- JET has most of the jobs in the rural areas (which only hires once a year, through the embassy of your country etc), if you want a decent salary, then it takes pretty much ALL of the jobs in rural areas IME. Again, there are virtually no jobs available in January. None. That's when people come back from the New Year holiday, and start thinking about April hires.
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Will i be able to save money and still enjoy my life?
Do you enjoy sitting in a room quietly doing nothing? What does 'enjoy my life' mean to you?
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Will i be able to eat vegetarian?
Only if you buy vegetables. It depends on whether fish base counts as meat for you. It isn't all that easy to live like a vegetarian and still go out to restaurants in Japan. Also it's REALLY expensive to live vegetarian in Japan compared with Canada or probably other western countries. Especially this year. It's like 99Y for ONE tomato in the grocery store. The craziness of the prices is now on the news all the time.
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What kind of hours would i be teaching?
whatever your employer wants you to and you are contracted to. It entirely depends on the type of employment you get- conversation school, high school, cram school...

If you insist on doing this, make sure you bring your actual degree with you- they'll want to see it. Also any TESOL qualifications you have. And keep in mind that the market is already flooded with people who speak Japanese and have qualifications and probably at least some connections.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 12844
Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You really need to read the FAQ stickies!

- Can i arrive on a one way ticket?
No, not usually. Airlines will not let you come that way unless you have permission to stay (a visa).

- Do i find a job when i get there?
You could, but be prepared to wait 2-4 months before that and your first paycheck rolls in. Alternately, get hired by the few places that hire abroad, so you can stay in the comfort of your own country until you are sure you are hired.

-Where is the best place to live? I am not into big city life. I would prefer to be by the beach and around nature. I would however, still like to be able to have a lot of friends, ex pat or otherwise.
Best place depends on you. Keep in mind that if you get hired by the bigger outfits, they will give you a choice of where you want to work/live, but in the end you go where they have the vacancies. Beaches in Japan are not the best quality. You seem to want your cake and eat it, too, by wanting to be near lots of friends. When you arrive, you won't have any here, so how is that supposed to happen?

-How do i go about finding a job?
Read the stickies. You answer ads and interview and hope for the best.

-What salary can i expect?
With all these general questions, I'd have to say that you're bottom rung of the ladder, meaning ALT work or eikaiwa. (If you don't know what these are, you are indeed bottom rung and need to do some basic research.) Those jobs pay 220,000-250,000 yen/month with the exception of JET Programme ALT, which pays 300,000. Those are pre-tax and pre-deduction figures. Lop off 10-15% for taxes (20% if you are on working holiday visa).

There will be employers who offer far less. Avoid them if you can. Read ads to see the general range of salaries.

-Will i be able to save money and still enjoy my life?
That's up to your lifestyle, location and rent. It's very possible.

-Will i be able to eat vegetarian?
Define your brand of vegetarianism. There are too many to say conclusively yes, but I will give you the nod here in a general way.

-What kind of hours would i be teaching?
ALTs teach Monday to Friday, 45-minute lessons, 2-4 per day, and are finished by 5pm.
Eikaiwa teachers may have 45, 60, or 80 minute lessons any day of the week (5-6 days per week, and Sat / Sun may not be your weekend), from noon to 9pm. You could have 2-8 classes per day.

Now, do you have the minimum requirements to get a work visa? That would be a bachelor's degree in any subject.
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cornishmuppet



Joined: 27 Mar 2004
Posts: 642
Location: Nagano, Japan

PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the OP, good luck for your life in wherever you choose out of Laos, Taiwan, Thailand or Japan, all of which you claim to be moving to early next year. Read the stickies then come back when you've made a final decision and lots of people will do their best to help you out.
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flyer



Joined: 16 May 2003
Posts: 539
Location: Sapporo Japan

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ALTs teach Monday to Friday, 45-minute lessons, 2-4 per day, and are finished by 5pm.


where did you get that info from?

I regulary do more than 4 lessons in 1 day and finish at 5;30 everyday

btw JHS lessons are 50 mins, ES are 45.
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cornishmuppet



Joined: 27 Mar 2004
Posts: 642
Location: Nagano, Japan

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You at Interac? In three and a half years as an ALT I've only done five lessons in a day once, and that was because a teacher was sick. I've heard of people getting brutal schedules at elementary schools but at Junior High its unheard of. The JTEs don't work that many and if you're doing more lessons a week than the JTEs you should ask serious questions of your employer.

Finishing at 5.30? Thats unfortunate. I'm done at 4.15 now I work at High School, though one day a week I've been coerced into staying until 6pm for an English Club.
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seklarwia



Joined: 20 Jan 2009
Posts: 1546
Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flyer,

If you are in JH then you are most unfortunately.

On a normal day in my JH there are only 5 teaching periods but I average around 2-3 lessons a day. I very rarely have 5 classes and have only done 6 once (one period had been cancelled earlier that month for an emergency assembly so had been added onto that day - pretty much every teacher in the school ended up with a brutal schedule that day).

If you are with Interac, I've heard that normal let off time is around 4. I often leave after 5, but that's because I've joined the smoking/eating/gossip after school club in the main staffroom.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 12844
Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flyer wrote:
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ALTs teach Monday to Friday, 45-minute lessons, 2-4 per day, and are finished by 5pm.


where did you get that info from?

I regulary do more than 4 lessons in 1 day and finish at 5;30 everyday

btw JHS lessons are 50 mins, ES are 45.
Classes at my old HS and JHS were 45 minutes long. Not a heckuva lot of difference here. Same with finishing time: close enough. I'm sure there's variation everywhere.

As for 2-4 per day, perhaps I should have qualified that this is what many JET ALTs report. Perhaps dispatch ALTs are different...?
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LITTLE PEACHES



Joined: 25 Jun 2009
Posts: 94
Location: ORANGE COUNTY, CA & TAMA, TOKYO, JAPAN

PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i didn't read everyone elses posts...so sorry if this is repeating....these answers are only from what i have learned and experienced.

- Can i arrive on a one way ticket?
most likely not...immigration can be difficult...i had a horrible experience getting through immigration with a round trip because the return date was more then 3 months away, which is what you can go for on a tourist visa.

- Do i find a job when i get there?
i would reccomend getting one before you come out here unless you speak the language. like many other countries....japan is in an economic pinch. if you are having a hard job in your country..expect the same situation here to find a job...i have heard this, i came out here with a job and didn't look for one...i haven't heard or seen any places looking for a job.

-Where is the best place to live? I am not into big city life. I would prefer to be by the beach and around nature. I would however, still like to be able to have a lot of friends, ex pat or otherwise.
hmmm...i live in tokyo and there are not many beaches....okinawa is where the beach scene is, but there aren't many jobs there if any for english teachers. japan is very very very over populated so great areas of lands aren't great from my experience. there are nice places to hike and travel to though that arent tooo far. I feel like everything is about an hour away by train.

-How do i go about finding a job?
i have no idea

-What salary can i expect?
coming out you will spend quite a bit...japan is an expensive country! bring lots of money with you....depending on what you do will help you with your salary...i reccomend going with a company that will help you with housing...renting an apartment or a house through anyone in japan is very expensive...you can expect to pay 5-6 times your rent before ever signing your contract and actually renting your apartment...very expensive.

-Will i be able to save money and still enjoy my life?
i havent been here long enough, but from my coworkers some have been able to some havent, it depends on how lavishly you live.

-Will i be able to eat vegetarian?
my coworker that i replaced was a vegetarian and she seemed to do fine. Remember produce here is more expensive then other countries since we import it.

-What kind of hours would i be teaching?
depends on where you are working, public school have fixed regular school hours. I work at a small private school and work thursday through money with tuesday and wed off. I work 37 hours a week. Japanese work very hard so there are days that i work 10 hours and others that i work 4, so it can be hard to understand sometimes. Weekends i am off by 5 though

hope this is a little helpful for you....feel free to pm me or ask any questions
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lisa111082



Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Posts: 37
Location: Too close to Mt. Fuji

PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
flyer wrote:
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ALTs teach Monday to Friday, 45-minute lessons, 2-4 per day, and are finished by 5pm.


where did you get that info from?

I regulary do more than 4 lessons in 1 day and finish at 5;30 everyday

btw JHS lessons are 50 mins, ES are 45.
Classes at my old HS and JHS were 45 minutes long. Not a heckuva lot of difference here. Same with finishing time: close enough. I'm sure there's variation everywhere.

As for 2-4 per day, perhaps I should have qualified that this is what many JET ALTs report. Perhaps dispatch ALTs are different...?


Dispatch ALT here. I work in a dozen ESes and do 5-6 lessons a day. Seeing 4 is like a godsend...
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seklarwia



Joined: 20 Jan 2009
Posts: 1546
Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano

PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lisa111082 wrote:
Glenski wrote:
flyer wrote:
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ALTs teach Monday to Friday, 45-minute lessons, 2-4 per day, and are finished by 5pm.


where did you get that info from?

I regulary do more than 4 lessons in 1 day and finish at 5;30 everyday

btw JHS lessons are 50 mins, ES are 45.
Classes at my old HS and JHS were 45 minutes long. Not a heckuva lot of difference here. Same with finishing time: close enough. I'm sure there's variation everywhere.

As for 2-4 per day, perhaps I should have qualified that this is what many JET ALTs report. Perhaps dispatch ALTs are different...?


Dispatch ALT here. I work in a dozen ESes and do 5-6 lessons a day. Seeing 4 is like a godsend...


ES can often be more than JH. All the ALTs in my area that have ES have a much busier schedule than those of us at JH regardless of whether they are JET or dispatch. Almost all the ALTs here that have ES also have quite a few schools to visits. There is one exception for a rather large ES with about 1200 students that has one dispatch ALT there full time and one JET who is based at another school but also has lessons there.
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