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vash3000



Joined: 13 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 8:18 am    Post subject: So I visited Roppongi... Reply with quote

So I visited Roppongi...

Nice place.

Heh.

It was my first time in Tokyo, and while I can`t say I found the essence of Japan there...I`m sure that many Japanese might consider it the essence of gaijin folk.

Ouch.

Even so, it was fun. Forget Sumo, K-1, or Pride...just situate yourself outside of Gas Panic! and watch the army boys wack each other on the head with beer bottles.

(put your money on Security...they seem to have the rear-naked chokes down pat)

So I had a good time...met a cool Brazillian, and we communicated in Japanese (not exactly the international language of love...but "tenshi no yoni kirei des" goes a long way. Follow up with a "kawaii" or two, and you`ll be dancing in no time. I recommend club "Zoom")

Which, I guess, is all to say...If a granola boy like Vash finds happiness and solace in a cesspool like Rappongi, perhaps my days of country living are numbered.

So...

What are the dos and donts of job hunting in Tokyo? I take it that one might wish to be a little more selective than in the country. Is everyone freelancing? Schools the norm? Part-time business English contracts in vogue? What`s an acceptable base rate?

Where the heck do you live?

Hey! Tokyo! I need the crib sheet!

And what`s with the girl who told me that in one year I could make a 100K?

I only had a glimpse of a rather disturbed little spot in Tokyo, but even so it seemed preferrable to Gunma.

(I dunno, maybe the novelty of having old men in onsens comment on my ... is starting to wear off.)

Thanks guys and dolls,
V.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What are the dos and donts of job hunting in Tokyo? I take it that one might wish to be a little more selective than in the country. Is everyone freelancing? Schools the norm? Part-time business English contracts in vogue? What`s an acceptable base rate?


Let's start with a simple question, vash. What are your qualifications and nationality?

Do's of job hunting.
1. Have the proper qualifications for the visa.
2. Have a good looking resume and cover letter.
3. Dress well and show up on time for the interview.
4. Know something about the company/school.
5. Do your hunting at the right time.
6. Know how to prove your adaptability to living in a foreign land.

Don'ts of job hunting.
1. Don't tell customs you are coming on a tourist visa to job hunt.
2. Don't tell the interviewer (or resume reader) you want to learn Japanese.
3. Don't tell the interviewer you have (or had) a Japanese girlfriend/boyfriend.
4. Don't take just any job that's offered, especially if the contract seems a bit shaky.
5. Don't expect to negotiate much, if at all, with an eikaiwa position (for salary).

No, everyone is not freelancing.

What do you mean "schools the norm"? People teach English at eikaiwas, high schools, international schools, businesses, private lessons, universities, etc. There really is no "norm" other than having a sponsored job. Anything on top of that depends on the individual.

PT business contracts are hard to come by, so I wouldn't call them "in vogue".

Acceptable base rate of pay for an eikaiwa is 250,000 to 280,000 yen/month.
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fat_chris



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 3:19 pm    Post subject: Re: So I visited Roppongi... Reply with quote

vash3000 wrote:
And what`s with the girl who told me that in one year I could make a 100K?


In yen? You can make that in two weeks or less, but you don't need me to tell you that.

Roppongi--either I would love it or hate it.
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vash3000



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mission control, we have a problem.

Do's of job hunting.
1. Have the proper qualifications for the visa.


Well...as a registered member of the Unity Life Church (membership is free, but please be responsible with your pastoral powers), I am mildly offended that any heathen would ever question my standing. That said, I suppose I could whip up a reference from God if the need be pressing.

2. Have a good looking resume and cover letter.

Sorry, all I have is a photo.

3. Dress well and show up on time for the interview.

I will make you wait, and you will thank me for it.

4. Know something about the company/school.

Heh...at my last interview:

"CoMpaNY whAt yoU kNOw?"

Vash: "Soap....right?"

(True story, got the job)

5. Do your hunting at the right time.

pshaw

6. Know how to prove your adaptability to living in a foreign land.

Ah...gotcha. For example when the J-cop pulls you over for drunk driving (actually, you weren`t drunk...but just driving erratically `cause the sidewalks are so big and the Subaru Vivio the the soap factory gave you drives remarkably well on those sidewalks in GUNMA) you have a pre-set strategy:

1) "Wakalimasen" (repeat as necessary)

2) Breathing in when they hold the bag to your nose, all the while (and here`s the tricky part) pretending to breath out.

3) If all this fails and they do drag you to the police station, claim to be some drunk tourist. Under no circumstances are you to tell them you are actually working in Japan.

(Actually, this three step little plan was laid out for me by one of my students. I am forever gratefull)

Hey...wait a second. Who am I talking to here?

Glenski!?

Sheesh...I should have known.

NEXT!
V.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mission control, we have a problem.
Hey...wait a second. Who am I talking to here?

Glenski!?

Sheesh...I should have known.


Yes, we have a problem. You.
Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
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grampus



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh dear, here we go again. Someone has started him off.
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vash3000



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

I chomp with impunity.

Please lighten up a bit,
V.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh dear, here we go again. Someone has started him off.

Is that aimed at me? Seems these days, it often is.

If so, all I can say is this. I provided a sensible reply and a logical question on which to base further replies. What did I get? Smugness and sarcasm and childishness. I should've known better from the very first post, but I tried to keep this professional.
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vash3000



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is that aimed at me?


You`re not exactly the brightest lure in the tackle box, are ya?

Quote:
If so, all I can say is this. I provided a sensible reply and a logical question on which to base further replies. What did I get? Smugness and sarcasm and childishness. I should've known better from the very first post, but I tried to keep this professional.


I don`t think so.

You just want a forum to vent your bitterness. I think it`s clear to most who read your posts.

To be honest, considering the amount of time you`ve spent in Japan, I`m surprised you haven`t developed a sense of humor. This I find quite baffling. So when I enquire about the nuances of job hunting in Tokyo, and receive such "professional" advice admonishing me to show up on time with a resume...

It sorta writes itself, don`t you think?

Seems "sensible" to me.

Again, please lighten up a bit.

V.
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grimmer



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski

Lighten up. Take the wise words from Vash with the respect that they deserve. My people have long since grown tired of your jaded patter, charmlessness.
Re invent yourself. My people need more `have a go` heroes like Vash, fewer ego driven, leisure centre manager types like yourself.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take it easy everyone. It is starting to sound like the China forum here, or worse Korea. If you don't like someone's advice, ignore it and don't take everything so personally.
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TokyoLiz



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Location: Tokyo, Japan

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chill out, already! And that goes for everybody.

I'm with Gordon on this - of all the forums on Dave's, the Japan forum appears to be consistently civil and useful. Let's keep it that way.

Vash, your comments are hilarious, but your humour doesn't appear to appeal to all tastes. Go easy on the doses you give us Smile

Glenski, you've been so helpful to so many on this forum. I guess a lot of us expect a lot of you...
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denise



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gordon wrote:
Take it easy everyone. It is starting to sound like the China forum here, or worse Korea. If you don't like someone's advice, ignore it and don't take everything so personally.


I agree. This is getting old.

If someone writes a response that is either too serious or not serious enough for your liking, why bother replying?

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ntropy



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ditto. Now it's your turn to turn the other cheek and ignore it, Vash. You've taken this far too personally. Can we please talk about topics, ideas, job info/advice etc. instead of each other?
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ntropy



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ditto. Now it's your turn to turn the other cheek and ignore it, Vash. You've taken this far too personally. Can we please talk about topics, ideas, job info/advice etc. instead of each other?
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