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SNIZ
Joined: 07 Oct 2009 Posts: 11
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:09 pm Post subject: iqama, visa whatever pls help |
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My husband is leaving THIS friday to KSA ...what do i do now in regards to moving over there? do i apply on my own at the embassy here or is kau supposed to be doing that for me? my husband as a US citizen had to go to the states to get his visa and is leaving from there while I am an Australian living in Australia, anyone in a similar situation? oh yes and I am about 4 months pregnant how long does it take on average for my iqama or visa or whatever is it i should or shouldn't be applying for... |
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Cleopatra

Joined: 28 Jun 2003 Posts: 3657 Location: Tuamago Archipelago
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:54 am Post subject: |
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do i apply on my own at the embassy here or is kau supposed to be doing that for me? |
I'm very surprised that, at this late stage, nobody has informed you of SAudi visa procedures. There is no such thing as 'applying on your own' for a Saudi visa. You must have an official Saudi sponsor who applies for authorization on your behalf. Then you can go to the embassy and start the visa process from your end.
If KAU has not already applied for and obtained a visa for you to accompany your husband, you are going to have to start the visa process from scratch. This can take anywhere from a few weeks to several months. It may be that KAU will not bring spouses over until their husband/wife has passed the probation period of 90 days. I suggest your husband talk to the most senior HR employee he can find at KAU as soon as possible on arrival. You don't have much time to waste. |
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polly1
Joined: 05 Oct 2009 Posts: 13
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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It sounds like you should be prepared to give birth in Australia! I'm no expert, but I'd imagine that it would be better for your baby's future to be born in Australia. I'm talking from the point of view of the advantages of citizenship , ie KSA vs Australian citizenship. Maybe with an Australian mother and US father that wont matter - but like I said, Im not an expert - it's just a suggestion. Also, as you may know, most airlines have restrictions about pregnant women flying past a point (it could be 8 months with some or less with others). Worthwhile checking up on, just in case you have to wait for months for your visa. I'm still waiting and my situation is much simpler than yours. Good luck. |
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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polly1 wrote: |
It sounds like you should be prepared to give birth in Australia! I'm no expert, but I'd imagine that it would be better for your baby's future to be born in Australia. I'm talking from the point of view of the advantages of citizenship , ie KSA vs Australian citizenship. Maybe with an Australian mother and US father that wont matter - but like I said, Im not an expert - it's just a suggestion. |
Well, if a baby with an Australian mother and an American father is born in the Magic Kingdom he will not get the KSA citizenship even if he lives 20 years in the Magic Kingdom. The baby will take the citizenship of his father or mother.
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Also, as you may know, most airlines have restrictions about pregnant women flying past a point (it could be 8 months with some or less with others). Worthwhile checking up on, just in case you have to wait for months for your visa. I'm still waiting and my situation is much simpler than yours. Good luck. |
Yes, the above is true, according to the Airlines laws, there is a limiting time for pregnant woman to travel by air. The Saudi airlines are strict in this, and they will ask for a doctor letter to allow you to travel if your pregancy is not more than 6 months.
Because you are pregnant, it would be better for you and your baby to stay in Australia and deliver there. Because the health system services (especially maternity clinics) in the Magic Kingdsom are not like the ones in Australia, and some are under-developed in the small cities.
For your visa, as Cleo stated, your husband should do the process from the Magic Kingdom, and it is a long process, it will take at least 3 weeks from his side, and 4 weeks from your side if everything is OK.
Good luck. |
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SNIZ
Joined: 07 Oct 2009 Posts: 11
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the sincere replies, I just want to give a quick update on our situation, apparently because of my circumstances my iqama will be completed by saturday to be sent to canberra by dhl shortly after, which is great ! but now i am having second thoughts about going altogether because of the advice on medical system in KSA. I am not so worried about citizenship because I am aware that no non-saudi can become a saudi citizen by birth (so i will definitely be having a kangaroo !! yay..) but also the incentive to give birth in Australia is great when the govt not only pays for the delivery of baby but on top of that they give a $5000 baby bonus to help out with the newborn expenses...maybe I will go there for a couple of months and then come back home for the birth.
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Dear
" . . . I am aware that no saudi can become a saudi citizen by birth . . ."
I think you meant that no non-Saudi can become a Saudi citizen by being born in the Kingdom.
Actually, the only way a Saudi can become a Saudi citizen is by birth.
But I'd say that having your baby in Australia sounds like the right decision to me.
Regards,
John |
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SNIZ
Joined: 07 Oct 2009 Posts: 11
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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thanks Johnslat, i fixed it up  |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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I think going home for the birth is a very good idea. I would confirm the process of getting out of KSA and coming back with the baby.
Good Luck!!
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed

Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 3500 Location: Shhh...don't talk to me...I'm playin' dead...
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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SNIZ wrote: |
thanks Johnslat, i fixed it up  |
SNIZ wrote: |
..no non-saudi... |
Oh, baby, didja!
NCTBA |
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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SNIZ wrote: |
Thanks for all the sincere replies, I just want to give a quick update on our situation, apparently because of my circumstances my iqama will be completed by saturday to be sent to canberra by dhl . |
How come you get an iqama without having entered the Magic Kingdom with a valid entry visa? The saudi Iqama has no purpose outside the borders of the Magic Kingdom, and cannot be used as an entry visa or anything else! |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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Dear 007,
Yup, I noticed that as well. I suspect that was was meant was the visa rather then an iqama. As far as I'm aware, one's iqama never leaves the Kingdom.
Regards,
John |
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I guess she will receive a visa number (not the visa itself!), then after satisfying all the Saudi requirements of visa, they will stamp an entry- visa on her passport.
The Magic Kingdom never sends visas by DHL!!  |
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Mia Xanthi

Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 955 Location: why is my heart still in the Middle East while the rest of me isn't?
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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SNIZ, I know quite a few women, some of them Australian, who have given birth in KSA and experienced no problems whatsoever with the medical facilities. Birth is one thing that doctors in Saudi Arabia are very familiar with, given that Saudi women seem to mostly be on the "one a year" plan. Public hospitals might not be so great, but in most urban areas there are very nice private hospitals which can handle even a complicated birth with great safety. I say this just so that you will know that you do have a choice in case your husband really wants to be with you for the birth of your child.
Also, as others have said, remember that you've usually got to be on that plane back home by 7 months or so. After that, they won't let you fly. That means you have to spend the last two months of the pregnancy without hubby as well, which can be very difficult, especially if it is your first child.
Good luck with all this. I really feel that you and your child will be fine even if you give birth in KSA. |
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usa_in_gulf
Joined: 10 Aug 2009 Posts: 133 Location: Gulf
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, the only way a Saudi can become a Saudi citizen is by birth. |
Birth is not the only way to obtain Saudi citizenship. Since 2004, the Ministry of Interior has accepted applications from foreigners to obtain Saudi citizenship. It is a point system similiar to systems found in some Western countries. Citizenship is granted to those who hold medical degrees and some higher technical degrees. You must have also lived in KSA for at least ten years. You must be a Muslim, be fluent in Arabic -- and other requirements. In practice, very few people are granted citizenship but birth is not the only way.
My brother-in-law, who is a MD, and a long time resident of KSA, obtained Saudi citizenship in 2007.
PS.. I have given birth in KSA and Kuwait.. several times! with absolutely no problem!!! |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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Dear usa_in_gulf,
Yup, I'm aware of what you posted. However, if you read the highlighted portion below:
". . . the only way a Saudi can become a Saudi citizen is by birth.
you'll see that I wasn't referring to foreigners' becoming Saudi citizens.
Regards,
John
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