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Dominic-Pax



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:32 pm    Post subject: Foreign wives in Saudi Arabia Reply with quote

I was just wondering if anybody reading these threads has any experience with having an asian wife (i.e. Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Indonesian, etc.) accompany them as they teach/taught English in Saudi Arabia.

More specifically:

-How did they like it?
-What did they do to keep busy?
-Add your own information and thoughts that don't mind sharing on this topic?
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Sheikh N Bake



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. My wife is Chinese from Malaysia, KL. And a career girl at that. No, she did not like it. Nor would any Chinese, Indian, Malay or Japanese woman I ever knew in Asia. I'll admit I met one or two loser housewives on the Raytheon compound, Korean ex-bargirls and the like, who got off on ordering maids around and pretending the compound was a Newport country club when they played tennis. My wife stuck it out for 2 1/2 years, a total waste of her time except that we were newly married (in the early '90s). She left for the US a year ahead of me. This was before wide use of the Internet, however. Later, in Dubai and Abu Dhabi, she got her distance bachelor's degree while working. (But that was through independent study and proctored exams, not the internet...so I suppose she should have done it while we were in Saudi. I guess we didn't know about it or think of it.)
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Dominic-Pax



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheikh N Bake wrote:
Yes. My wife is Chinese from Malaysia, KL. And a career girl at that. No, she did not like it. Nor would any Chinese, Indian, Malay or Japanese woman I ever knew in Asia. I'll admit I met one or two loser housewives on the Raytheon compound, Korean ex-bargirls and the like, who got off on ordering maids around and pretending the compound was a Newport country club when they played tennis. My wife stuck it out for 2 1/2 years, a total waste of her time except that we were newly married (in the early '90s). She left for the US a year ahead of me. This was before wide use of the Internet, however. Later, in Dubai and Abu Dhabi, she got her distance bachelor's degree while working. (But that was through independent study and proctored exams, not the internet...so I suppose she should have done it while we were in Saudi. I guess we didn't know about it or think of it.)


Thanks for your reply. What do you mean by looser housewives? Is this just a sarcastic negative comment or are you pointing to something else?

Did you work for Raytheon? And are you in Saudi now?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wrote "loser," not "looser." Yes, I had a negative view of that particular type of housewife because of exactly how I described them. Yes, I worked there.
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Dominic-Pax



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheikh N Bake wrote:
I wrote "loser," not "looser." Yes, I had a negative view of that particular type of housewife because of exactly how I described them. Yes, I worked there.


Pardon me, I made a typo. When you write that you had a negative view of that type of housewife are you referring to their ethnicity or the behavior? It seemed like you were making an implicit connection between the two.
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Dominic-Pax



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheikh N Bake wrote:
I wrote "loser," not "looser." Yes, I had a negative view of that particular type of housewife because of exactly how I described them. Yes, I worked there.


Pardon me, I made a typo. When you write that you had a negative view of that type of housewife are you referring to their ethnicity or the behavior? It seemed like you were making an implicit connection between the two.

What was working for Raytheon like?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Losers ? KSA is full of losers. Not many winners come here !
All of us foreigners are here because we screwed up somewhere else !

All I can say is "Roll on demob !"
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Chaudhry



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

O boy some people never take their loser glasses off.
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Dominic-Pax



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Losers ? KSA is full of losers. Not many winners come here !
All of us foreigners are here because we screwed up somewhere else !

All I can say is "Roll on demob !"


This is just immature. How do your comments help anyone?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, the Korean happened to be one of those... I was referring to the behavior. Some of the Latinas were like that as well.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think what SnB was referring to was we called in the UAE, the "Jumairah Janes." The housewife types... not necessarily the mothers of small children who are working very hard... but the ladies who lunch... loll by the pool... and gossip all day... play a spot of tennis perhaps... interspersed with shopping... all done with delusions of superiority to us mere drones who actually work for a living.

Nationality can vary... Laughing

VS
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jumeirah Janes...Kompound Kathys.....doncha jes luv em?

Those unfamiliar with the social mores of the Gulf might refer to any films they've seen or books they've read on the subject of 19th century colonial wives in Africa or India. The same attitudes can be found in many an expat enclave around the Gulf today.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
and gossip all day



....ahhh the memories from the 80's keep flowin'........now was that "gossip" in English or Arabic? Laughing

wait let me guess.......Amharic!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely in English... none of this type knows a word of Arabic... in spite of living in the Gulf for eons.

VS
(that said there may be a parallel group of Arab wives doing the same... but the two groups would never intersect)
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svatopluk



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like the army, where the wives wear their rank more than the actual soldiers.

I knew guys with Sudanese wives in Saudi and those women used to order around the service staff like a sargeant major.
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