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Silence820



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:51 am    Post subject: is spanish important Reply with quote

i am moving to mexico city. is it important to know spanish, to teach english?
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Professor



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really. If you work for one of the language institutes for adults, they will most likely want you to NOT speak Spanish in the classroom. It seems like that's a policy here in Mexico City at least. The same is true for privates as well.
I teach privates also but only people who can speak and understand English and they want to IMPROVE their ability to understand a native speaker. I talked with one lady who was interested in improving her conversation,but she couldn't speak or understand spoken English enough.
Knowing some Spanish couldn't hurt though. If you can try to learn some before coming.
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notamiss



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Consider, though, that if you are teaching English in Mexico City, you are also LIVING in Mexico City. Renting a place to live, eating, going out, making friends etc. is a lot easier if you can speak some Spanish.
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Spector



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

notamiss wrote:
Consider, though, that if you are teaching English in Mexico City, you are also LIVING in Mexico City. Renting a place to live, eating, going out, making friends etc. is a lot easier if you can speak some Spanish.


Yeah that's what I was thinking too - in other words, the teaching side of ESL requires no Spanish, but the living side does.
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Professor



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can use body language also. For example you can point at a food that you like if it's a buffet style setup. You can do the same with menus. Vips has menus in English which is good to know,but it's also bad because you won't really learn Spanish if you're constantly looking at English.
But it's good to know when you first arrive. Your Spanish won't have to be perfect to live here. You can get by on very little for a while.I'm LIVING PROOF of that.
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geaaronson



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:53 pm    Post subject: furthermore Reply with quote

There are enough people in DF who speak English so you will manage to get by. I never had a course in Spanish in my entire life and started to autodidact as soon as I got here. If you live in better neighborhoods with better educated professionals you will not have much of a problem as you will find many people with some English training who will help you out. But should you move to a poor neighborhood, you will be lost.
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only thing is, we're all different in our learning abilities and if you are the analytical type, as I am, classes are very useful. But for sure, I agree that speaking the language is pretty essential to live a full life here, and it is amazing how fast you learn when you are living it day in, day out.
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TheLongWayHome



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is just my opinion but if you're going to teach a language and go on about how important it is to speak a second language, how to study, what to study, etc etc then at least (try to) learn one yourself.

If your Spanish is good it opens up a lot more possibilities, on every level, especially financially. I find people take you more seriously as you actually bothered to learn the language of the country you live in.

Just can't sit through another one of those courses on CLIL, VLEs, Blended Learning, language acquisition et al given by a native speaker who hasn't learnt a second language.
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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: is spanish important Reply with quote

Silence820 wrote:
i am moving to mexico city. is it important to know spanish, to teach english?


To sum up an answer to your question: Not really.

I arrived with no Spanish at all. After six months (or as long as I could stay on a tourist card Wink ) I was speaking enough Spanish to get by on my own.

If you plan on staying in Mexico or Latin America long-term, than taking some classes would be a big help.

I do find it funny that people here (Spanish speaking foreigners and Mexicans) expect others to come to Mexico and learn Spanish to live and work here. Look at teachers that go to places in Asia like China or Vietnam, it's a heck of a tall order to learn those lingos. And who's going to stay for 25 years in Vietnam???

I think some of the longtimers lose perspective at times. You can get by just fine on basic Spanish.
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wildchild



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
To sum up an answer to your question: Not really.


Quote:
You can get by just fine on basic Spanish.


so i guess that's no and yes.

Confused


anyway. basically, the OP is asking if it's important to be able to communicate with the other humans living in their immediate area.

um.... no, not important at all. Confused i just mostly babble at people and it has made me a lot of friends...
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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wildchild wrote:
Quote:
To sum up an answer to your question: Not really.


Quote:
You can get by just fine on basic Spanish.


so i guess that's no and yes.

Confused


anyway. basically, the OP is asking if it's important to be able to communicate with the other humans living in their immediate area.

um.... no, not important at all. Confused i just mostly babble at people and it has made me a lot of friends...


What I said was this: Is it a must to speak Spanish either for teaching or living? No.

Does it take long to learn basic Spanish? No.

Is it better to speak basic Spanish rather than no Spanish? Of course.

Do I bother to make amigos with Mexicans that don't speak English? Hardly ever. Do I care? Not at all.

Bueno Suerte Exclamation
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wildchild



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do I bother to make amigos with Mexicans that don't speak English? Hardly ever. Do I care? Not at all.


um...okaaay.... Shocked

Quote:
Bueno Suerte


ah, now i see... Laughing
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lisa1968



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

prof, isn�t your wife Peruvian? How does she feel about you not wanting to make friends that don�t speak any English?
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Professor



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many Mexicans who don't speak English try to be friends with us?? Few if any I'd say.
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Professor



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prof.Gringo wrote:


Do I bother to make amigos with Mexicans that don't speak English? Hardly ever. Do I care? Not at all.


I'm with you 100%.
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