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Silence820
Joined: 17 Aug 2009 Posts: 35
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:51 am Post subject: is spanish important |
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i am moving to mexico city. is it important to know spanish, to teach english? |
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Professor

Joined: 22 May 2009 Posts: 449 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Not really. If you work for one of the language institutes for adults, they will most likely want you to NOT speak Spanish in the classroom. It seems like that's a policy here in Mexico City at least. The same is true for privates as well.
I teach privates also but only people who can speak and understand English and they want to IMPROVE their ability to understand a native speaker. I talked with one lady who was interested in improving her conversation,but she couldn't speak or understand spoken English enough.
Knowing some Spanish couldn't hurt though. If you can try to learn some before coming. |
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notamiss

Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 908 Location: El 5o pino del la CDMX
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:42 am Post subject: |
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Consider, though, that if you are teaching English in Mexico City, you are also LIVING in Mexico City. Renting a place to live, eating, going out, making friends etc. is a lot easier if you can speak some Spanish. |
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Spector
Joined: 23 Oct 2009 Posts: 66
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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notamiss wrote: |
Consider, though, that if you are teaching English in Mexico City, you are also LIVING in Mexico City. Renting a place to live, eating, going out, making friends etc. is a lot easier if you can speak some Spanish. |
Yeah that's what I was thinking too - in other words, the teaching side of ESL requires no Spanish, but the living side does. |
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Professor

Joined: 22 May 2009 Posts: 449 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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You can use body language also. For example you can point at a food that you like if it's a buffet style setup. You can do the same with menus. Vips has menus in English which is good to know,but it's also bad because you won't really learn Spanish if you're constantly looking at English.
But it's good to know when you first arrive. Your Spanish won't have to be perfect to live here. You can get by on very little for a while.I'm LIVING PROOF of that. |
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geaaronson
Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 948 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:53 pm Post subject: furthermore |
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There are enough people in DF who speak English so you will manage to get by. I never had a course in Spanish in my entire life and started to autodidact as soon as I got here. If you live in better neighborhoods with better educated professionals you will not have much of a problem as you will find many people with some English training who will help you out. But should you move to a poor neighborhood, you will be lost. |
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Phil_K
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 2041 Location: A World of my Own
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Only thing is, we're all different in our learning abilities and if you are the analytical type, as I am, classes are very useful. But for sure, I agree that speaking the language is pretty essential to live a full life here, and it is amazing how fast you learn when you are living it day in, day out. |
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TheLongWayHome

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 1016 Location: San Luis Piojosi
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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This is just my opinion but if you're going to teach a language and go on about how important it is to speak a second language, how to study, what to study, etc etc then at least (try to) learn one yourself.
If your Spanish is good it opens up a lot more possibilities, on every level, especially financially. I find people take you more seriously as you actually bothered to learn the language of the country you live in.
Just can't sit through another one of those courses on CLIL, VLEs, Blended Learning, language acquisition et al given by a native speaker who hasn't learnt a second language. |
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Prof.Gringo

Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject: Re: is spanish important |
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Silence820 wrote: |
i am moving to mexico city. is it important to know spanish, to teach english? |
To sum up an answer to your question: Not really.
I arrived with no Spanish at all. After six months (or as long as I could stay on a tourist card ) I was speaking enough Spanish to get by on my own.
If you plan on staying in Mexico or Latin America long-term, than taking some classes would be a big help.
I do find it funny that people here (Spanish speaking foreigners and Mexicans) expect others to come to Mexico and learn Spanish to live and work here. Look at teachers that go to places in Asia like China or Vietnam, it's a heck of a tall order to learn those lingos. And who's going to stay for 25 years in Vietnam???
I think some of the longtimers lose perspective at times. You can get by just fine on basic Spanish. |
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wildchild

Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 519 Location: Puebla 2009 - 2010
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:24 am Post subject: |
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To sum up an answer to your question: Not really. |
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You can get by just fine on basic Spanish. |
so i guess that's no and yes.
anyway. basically, the OP is asking if it's important to be able to communicate with the other humans living in their immediate area.
um.... no, not important at all. i just mostly babble at people and it has made me a lot of friends... |
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Prof.Gringo

Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:16 am Post subject: |
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wildchild wrote: |
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To sum up an answer to your question: Not really. |
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You can get by just fine on basic Spanish. |
so i guess that's no and yes.
anyway. basically, the OP is asking if it's important to be able to communicate with the other humans living in their immediate area.
um.... no, not important at all. i just mostly babble at people and it has made me a lot of friends... |
What I said was this: Is it a must to speak Spanish either for teaching or living? No.
Does it take long to learn basic Spanish? No.
Is it better to speak basic Spanish rather than no Spanish? Of course.
Do I bother to make amigos with Mexicans that don't speak English? Hardly ever. Do I care? Not at all.
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wildchild

Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 519 Location: Puebla 2009 - 2010
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:36 am Post subject: |
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Do I bother to make amigos with Mexicans that don't speak English? Hardly ever. Do I care? Not at all. |
um...okaaay....
ah, now i see...  |
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lisa1968
Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 52
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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prof, isn�t your wife Peruvian? How does she feel about you not wanting to make friends that don�t speak any English? |
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Professor

Joined: 22 May 2009 Posts: 449 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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How many Mexicans who don't speak English try to be friends with us?? Few if any I'd say. |
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Professor

Joined: 22 May 2009 Posts: 449 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Prof.Gringo wrote: |
Do I bother to make amigos with Mexicans that don't speak English? Hardly ever. Do I care? Not at all.
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I'm with you 100%. |
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