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delal



Joined: 04 Oct 2005
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Location: N Turkey

PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:05 pm    Post subject: Is drilling teaching? Reply with quote

Is anyone else out there a bit down about not being allowed to teach "properly" and just expected to deliver the goods? Or am I just naive? I just don't see the point-apart from raking in a few, very few, lira- to standing in front of a class of kids and training them, like monkeys, to say the colours for 30 mins or until they get it. Big subject I know but it's just so pointless Crying or Very sad
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norwalkesl



Joined: 22 Oct 2009
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Location: Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-China

PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Memorization is essential to learning any language.
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TeachEnglish



Joined: 09 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha.. welcome to Turkey.. it seems that students here are taught to memorize..and not taught to think.. or how to learn... don't try to change anything.. just go along with the program.. or you will be labeled..and your career..here.. will be difficult.. and short.. Wink
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studymylesson



Joined: 28 May 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't believe it Delal. Follow Yeats', ''Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire.''
Even in Turkey, youngsters can have their thought processes kick started.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are not hired to teach them to think. Do what is expected of you. No more, no less.
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barabbas



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are good machines, and bad machines

from 'Midnight Express'
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norwalkesl



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

studymylesson wrote:
Don't believe it Delal. Follow Yeats', ''Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire.''
Even in Turkey, youngsters can have their thought processes kick started.


But they won't be able to speak/read/write a language if they do not memorize the alphabet, grammar and words so that they may use them. Even a lexical approach requires the students to know chunks of language so that they can produce. To use them again outside of class requires memorization.
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studymylesson



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well-designed, thought-provoking classroom activities are well-received where I work with undergraduates - language learning 'in context'??
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